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Week 1-4 Dbol 30mg ed adding 10mg p/w {front load}
Week 1-4 Prop 100ml eod {300ml p/w}
Week 3-12 Test Cyp 500mg p/w
Week 10-14 winny 60mg ed dropping 10mg p/w
pct
Week 17. Clomid 50 @ 100mg per day.
Week 18 - 22. Nolvadex 20 @ 20mg per day
Question can I run winny up till week 16 or is 4 weeks enough and can I add equi if so how much but I don’t want to use too many compounds as this will b my first real cycle, will b using milk thistle daily( herb) for liver protection, my budget is kind of tight so which AI will work best for this cycle
Stats:
age 29 turning 30 in june
height : 1;56
weight: 85
bf: 12%
target 10-15kg bf 10-13% is this achievable, will be reducing cardio from 20 min mon-fri to 60 min wed only,
training split
mon- chest,tri, forearms
tues- back, bi, abs
thurs- shoulders, calves
fri- quads,hams,abs
sat- tri,bi
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As for the winny start it at week 13 and run it till pct
Equi's out of the question for a 1st cycle and milk thistle on cycle will hinder your gains, essentiale is better (I think?)
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Deadgoat wrote: The point of frontloading is to kickstart your cycle before the long ester kicks in, if you only start pinning the cyp at 3 weeks you'll have 3 weeks (5-7) of nothing so what's the point of front loading? Rather pin the cyp from week 1 and drop the prop as you're already using dbol which is a better and cheaper frontloader for a bulk cycle
As for the winny start it at week 13 and run it till pct
Equi's out of the question for a 1st cycle and milk thistle on cycle will hinder your gains, essentiale is better (I think?)
Why would Milk Thistle hinder gains?
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AAS wrote:
Deadgoat wrote: The point of frontloading is to kickstart your cycle before the long ester kicks in, if you only start pinning the cyp at 3 weeks you'll have 3 weeks (5-7) of nothing so what's the point of front loading? Rather pin the cyp from week 1 and drop the prop as you're already using dbol which is a better and cheaper frontloader for a bulk cycle
As for the winny start it at week 13 and run it till pct
Equi's out of the question for a 1st cycle and milk thistle on cycle will hinder your gains, essentiale is better (I think?)
Why would Milk Thistle hinder gains?
it blocks androgen receptors.
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Deadgoat wrote: 2 weeks for the MT and isn't dandelion a natural diuretic, why would you use it?
It comes in a lot of the milk thistles for some reason, well at least the cheaper ones
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Dbol, Winny and PCT is going to punish your liver, I see the points about milk thistle. If you have the cash take a supplement called SAMe (available from most pharmacies), it was highly recommended to me and I had no problems.
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Michael wrote: is SAMe available over the counter?
It's on the shelves - vitamin section. Made by Solal. You can order from their website too.
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I hear the benefits of milk thistle are marginal, again just chat, no facts.
I wouldn't cycle orals with no supplement though.
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