Test Cyp after Winny+Clen Cycle

Hi there guys,

Firstly stats:

Sex : Male
Age : 24 years old
Height : 1.91m
Weight : 103Kg
BF(not skin fold, virgin active machine) : 24%

After 6 weeks.

Weight : 104Kg
BF(not skin fold, virgin active machine) : 15%


I'm 2 weeks out of my second cycle. 50mg Winny + 80mg Clen + adco ketotifen have already run 6 weeks of the 8 week cycle (I know its a bit long, got my liver enzymes checked 2 days ago decided to proceed with 8 weeks).

My progress could be less than expected but eating clean was not my problem, my joints 'freeze' quite badly after doing anything repeatedly for more than 20min. So i split the sessions 20min morning 20min evening and my usual weight training workout 6xweek. Each muscle group being trained twice per week.

I respond incredibly well to the androgenic effects of Winny + Clen and felt instead of bulking and retaining most of my BF i felt i needed some major cutting, i took the oral route. The stack rates well on the interwebs but i wish i added some test as i respond amazingly to the winny i could only think how id react to the test.

Could i add test cyp 500mg/week to my current cycle and continue that for another 10-12 weeks or should i take 6 to 8 weeks off after pct and then proceed in doing a lean gain cycle?

Also i have had some major testicular shrinkage thus far, i know the clomid should kick my nuts back into working nicely and the kessar will only assist in this. I can acquire some hcg from my dealer, is this advantageous in aiding pct either in 2.5weeks time or during the test cyp carryover and then using a longer pct of clmoid and kessar later down the line.

I know its many questions but im struggling to find info on this and dont want to make a mistake, rather learn from your guys

Any advice criticism or comment will be greatly appreciated

Dude you should of done Test, Test should be the basis of any cycle especially a beginner. Ive been using clen for the last 2 weeks now to get my bf to 12% before I start my first cycle. Test Cyp @ 500 for 10 weeks frontloaded with dbol @40mg for 25days. Wether you can add it now im not sure, the more experienced guys will help you out there.

Agree 100% with you bud,

I was too scared in all honesty to the effects of the meds. Not scared of needles at all just didn't have any idea how my body would react. But i love the effect of the androgen's and hopefully i can still add the test cyp.

Happy Gyming !

Rather take a break do the pct and then after a couple of weeks then start a test cycle frontloaded with dbols and rather try bridge with winni to your pct

First of go get your bf measured properly.so that you can workout a proper diet.do your pct and wait a while and do a cycle.
Test cyp @500mg 10-12weeks
Dianabol @40-50mg for 25 days
Winny to bridge @50mg for the 36 day wait until pct

Pct
Clomid
Nolva
Hcg

Have an ai on hamnd for side's-adex/letro

Ok fair enough. What do you suggest for the testicular atrophy though ? I might be overstating the symptoms but will a 4 week pct consisting of clomid and nolva do the job? I seem to have reacted quite badly to that particular side effect.

Also have you had any experience with axio clomiplex is it a decent substitute for generic clomid? I have the pct gear already just asking as the clomiplex is dosed at +- 73mg per pill, will taking the little bit extra (23mg) aid in recovery or should i workout in only 50mg zand 100mg dosages ?

Thanks in advance for any assistance

Get hcg for the atrophy.sorry bud only have experience with lp clomid.