Prop & Win cycle.

andre300
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29 Nov 2011 11:41 #84305 by andre300

Prop & Win cycle. was created by andre300

Could you gents that have done this simple cycle before, shed some light om your experiences/results. i am finishing mine this week and i am little dissapointed in the results. i was on a low carb diet through out. gained about 3 kg and dropped bf by 2. The winny i added to harden up. My bf is not ideal for winny,11%, but i cant say that i am any harder at all. How pronounced should the hardening effect be? looking fwd to your feedback

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29 Nov 2011 11:48 #84306 by 00pump

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Well that hard look comes when bodyfat is below 10% and diet also plays a part in how hard and full you look.. That cycle with bf under 10% will have spiderwebs on your arms...

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andre300
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29 Nov 2011 11:50 #84307 by andre300

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was not aiming at the hard look as i know bf was not ideal. more the hard feel.

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29 Nov 2011 12:06 #84310 by 00pump

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hmm, not sure what you want to hear, lol...

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andre300
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29 Nov 2011 12:16 #84311 by andre300

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just what other folks have experienced on this cycle.

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29 Nov 2011 12:50 #84312 by 00pump

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I gained serious strength, put on muscle, got veins popping out... One of the better cycles one can do... Hence the reason I'm not sure what you getting at... What was your diet like during this cycle, was it a custom diet and did you stick to eat gram for gram? Did you go out at nights and party till late and miss a meal or eat badly and put toxins from booze in you?

So many factors to take into account... Did you start to over train too? Training to many times a week, extending your sessions because you felt you could?

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andre300
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29 Nov 2011 14:23 - 29 Nov 2011 14:25 #84316 by andre300

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was not a custom diet. but i did gain mass and bring down bf%. no real strength gain since ive hit the winny and this is why i am asking. i know bf was not ideal, diet was good enough if i gained mass and shed bf. it is a very reputable brand and my supplier is also very reputable. so i am trying to figure out what went wrong. nothing was done that i havent done before on cycle or normally.

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29 Nov 2011 14:33 #84318 by 00pump

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Strange, i'm just on 50mg of LP winnie and 60mg LP proviron and veins popping out and strength also up... body is getting nice and hard, each week people are stating they seeing big changes... they don't know im on it.

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29 Nov 2011 14:41 #84323 by andre300

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on my 4th and final week and i cant say the same. maybe winny is just not for me or dosage is too low. running proviron through pct, is that recommended and if so, would it be beneficial?

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29 Nov 2011 14:50 #84327 by 00pump

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No, don't run Proviron during PCT as its slightly suppresive and there is no evidence of it aiding in anyway... huh, 4 weeks of Prop and Winstrol? Are you out of your mind? You need to run it around 6/8 weeks...

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andre300
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29 Nov 2011 15:16 - 29 Nov 2011 15:16 #84330 by andre300

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week1-8 100mg prop eod
week5-8 40mg win ed ,this lat week been on 60 mg

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29 Nov 2011 15:25 #84332 by 00pump

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Oh not bad... but why wasn't the winstrol extended to week 10 and go straight into PCT?

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jakes
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29 Nov 2011 15:25 #84333 by jakes

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I would have ran it for 10weeks, and thrown in anavar.
Something like
1-4:50mg winni
1-10:100mg prop ed
1-10:60mg anavar ed.

You didn't use clen or anything like that on this cycle? What did you want to get out of it bud? Atleast you dropped 2% bodyfat.

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andre300
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29 Nov 2011 15:34 - 29 Nov 2011 15:35 #84336 by andre300

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@jakes. wanted to drop bf and harden up.only prop and win and low carb diet.
@pump. did not think of that at all. but still,if it didnt do anything over 4 weeks not sure an additional 2 weeks would make a difference

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29 Nov 2011 15:50 #84339 by Rowan

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Hey 3000,

What brand prop and winni did you use? Not being funny, but I would be pretty bummed if I had those results after a cycle such as that too.

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andre300
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29 Nov 2011 15:55 #84340 by andre300

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lp and pgw. followed up with lp and batch was ligit. i ran it at 40 and only bumped it up to 60mg the last week,which is this week, so it might just be that my body needs more than that. i am bummed, but know its not product related as i have only used their products since my first cycle and there are guys that used from the same batch with different stories. i didnt even get joint pains, thought i did but it turned out to be muscle pains

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29 Nov 2011 15:58 #84341 by jakes

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Rowan wrote: Hey 3000,

What brand prop and winni did you use? Not being funny, but I would be pretty bummed if I had those results after a cycle such as that too.

Huh? Only 100mg mg EOD and you wouldn't be happy? That's like a low low dose beginners cycle. I wouldn't be bummed if I dropped 2% bodyfat on such a low dose cycle without clen, t3 or anything like that

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29 Nov 2011 16:04 #84342 by andre300

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jakes wrote:
Rowan wrote: Hey 3000,

What brand prop and winni did you use? Not being funny, but I would be pretty bummed if I had those results after a cycle such as that too.

Huh? Only 100mg mg EOD and you wouldn't be happy? That's like a low low dose beginners cycle. I wouldn't be bummed if I dropped 2% bodyfat on such a low dose cycle without clen, t3 or anything like that

let me rephrase......was expecting more from the winny. the prop did its job fine. this was my 1st cycle in over 18 months as i had a back operation

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30 Nov 2011 07:28 #84366 by 00pump

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andre300 ofcourse you would see results in the last 2 weeks...

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andre300
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30 Nov 2011 09:50 #84378 by andre300

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in that case.....i only have 2 days of winny left, and i will only receive a new batch by saturday or monday. that means that ill be without any aas in my system for a couple of days. will this not be counter productive or is there anything you can recommend?

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