Test Cyp, Winnie and Clen Cycle

AAS
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17 Nov 2011 22:40 #83255 by AAS

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Hi, Please help with my purposed first cycle

Test Cyp: 500mg each week for 10 weeks
Oral Winstrol as a bridge
Clen(Oral Liquid)

PCT 1 with Letrozole on hand

Please can someone help me with dosing of the Winnie and the Clen (oral liquid -lp)

Height: 6ft
Weight: 100kg
Bf: high teens
Training: 2 years with decent muscle gains and want to show that muscle now

Will be getting a diet from DJ

Thanks

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VonD
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17 Nov 2011 23:14 #83259 by VonD

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ok here we go.

Week 1 test cyp @ 500mg
week 2 test cyp @ 500mg
week 3 test cyp @ 500mg
week 4 test cyp @ 500mg
week 5 test cyp @ 500mg
week 6 test cyp @ 500mg
week 7 test cyp @ 500mg
week 8 test cyp @ 500mg
week 9 test cyp @ 500mg
week 10 test cyp @ 500mg
week 11 Winstrol oral @ 50mg per day
week 12 Winstrol oral @ 50mg per day
week 13 Winstrol oral @ 50mg per day
week 14 Winstrol oral @ 50mg per day
week 15 Winstrol oral @ 50mg per day

PCT:starts 36 days after last shot of test cyp.
week 16 Clomid @ 100mg a day
week 17 Nolvadex @ 20mg a day
week 18 Nolvadex @ 20mg a day
week 19 Nolvadex @ 20mg a day
week 20 Nolvadex @ 20mg a day
week 21 stop nolva 2 days in this week.(30days in total.)

letro dosage-2drops under the tongue followed by some water. in case of side effects

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AAS
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17 Nov 2011 23:18 #83260 by AAS

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What about the clen VonD and which do you think is better heat or clen

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VonD
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17 Nov 2011 23:26 #83262 by VonD

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oh dam sorry...
I like clen more than heat hands down.
clen dosage between 60-120mcg per day.1 drop=5mcg

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AAS
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17 Nov 2011 23:30 #83263 by AAS

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Should I be doing the clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Do I still need betasleep? and is the bridging with winnie nessesary?

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VonD
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17 Nov 2011 23:32 #83264 by VonD

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if you use betasleep you can use clen continuously if you do not use betasleep you need to cycle it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off.I run mine continuously.
I would use winnie to bridge to ensure you keep your gains from the cycle.

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17 Nov 2011 23:39 #83265 by AAS

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Would you recommend the cycling with no betasleep for a first time user. Hows 40 mg a day winnie for 25 days sound as a bridge cause I can only really afford 2 lp oral winstrol (1000mg in total)

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VonD
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17 Nov 2011 23:43 #83266 by VonD

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40mg winnie would be fine.test how you are effected by clen then decide wether to cycle it or use continuously.

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AAS
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17 Nov 2011 23:51 - 18 Nov 2011 00:02 #83267 by AAS

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When cycling clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, i dont need betasleep or that other stuff(forget the name), right? And do i start the winnie the next day after the last test injection?

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VonD
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18 Nov 2011 00:01 #83270 by VonD

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That is correct

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AAS
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18 Nov 2011 00:05 - 18 Nov 2011 00:05 #83271 by AAS

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What will happen if I don't use Winstrol as a bridge and just do the test cyp and clen, wait 36 days, then do pct 1. Im a bit tight on cash as you probly gathered but i want to do my first cycle right

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VonD
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18 Nov 2011 00:13 #83272 by VonD

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You know you don't have to buy everything at once...you are going to be on test for 2 and a half months then only do you need the winstrol.but if you don't have the money I would just stick to my diet 200%.I would personally wait and do the cycle properly by the book but its your choice bud.

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18 Nov 2011 00:18 - 18 Nov 2011 00:19 #83273 by AAS

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Noted, what would/might/probably happen if I don't use Winstrol as a bridge. Is a bridge essential in every cycle? Is a front load optional? I would rather not do a cycle if I am not doing it properly

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VonD
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18 Nov 2011 00:24 #83274 by VonD

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you will lose some of your gains most likely .frontload is quite essential to kickstart your cycle with long ester that take a while to for you to experience strength gains etc.I would wait if I was you buy everything my testcyp,dianabol,clomid,nolva,hcg,winnie,proviron and letro.wait and do it right you won't be sorry.

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18 Nov 2011 00:31 #83275 by AAS

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I want to start with PCT 1 which is for 1 or 2 compounds. How many weeks should Winstrol be run?

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VonD
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18 Nov 2011 00:34 #83276 by VonD

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Pct 1 is 2 compounds-clomid and nolvadex.winstrol should be run for 5 weeks.

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18 Nov 2011 00:41 #83277 by AAS

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How many days into the 36 day waiting period is winstrol done?
Is Winstrol the best compound for bridging in a cutting cycle ?

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VonD
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18 Nov 2011 00:44 #83278 by VonD

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Man I am sorry I have told you everything.do some research I worked out a whole cycle for you I explained everything.I can't see the point to repeat myself

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AAS
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18 Nov 2011 00:56 #83279 by AAS

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Ok thanks man really appreciated. Should 1 ever take more than 2 drops of letro? How long should clen be run if running it 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off? You said 8 weeks with the heat, what about without the heat, the same?

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VonD
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18 Nov 2011 01:02 #83280 by VonD

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I would take a break after cycling 4 times.
2weeks on
2weeks off
2weeks on
2weeks off
2weeks on
2weeks off
2weeks on
2weeks off
Take a break
if you get side effects you will up the letro dosage but we will deal with that if it happens.

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AAS
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18 Nov 2011 01:11 - 18 Nov 2011 01:30 #83281 by AAS

Replied by AAS on topic Test Cyp, Winnie and Clen Cycle

Thanks. What about my joints with the clen and winstrol, will they dry out badly?

Accessories

20G Needle
23G Needle
3ml Syringe (Naked)
2 x Alcohol Prep

Are these the right accessories?

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Last edit: 18 Nov 2011 01:30 by AAS.

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CHAPEL
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18 Nov 2011 09:17 #83327 by CHAPEL

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yoh.. Von you are patient

.. yes they will dry out.. take some form of EFA supplement or joint support.. you need to do your research now. No one is here to spoon feed you. When you can answer all these questions independently, then you are ready for your cycle. Just my 2c

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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VonD
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18 Nov 2011 09:20 #83328 by VonD

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CHAPEL wrote: yoh.. Von you are patient .. yes they will dry out.. take some form of EFA supplement or joint support.. you need to do your research now. No one is here to spoon feed you. When you can answer all these questions independently, then you are ready for your cycle. Just my 2c

I remember when I knew nothing so I am just trying to help a guy out.but you are right research goes a long way.

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18 Nov 2011 09:25 #83329 by CHAPEL

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haha good Samaritan +1

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18 Nov 2011 09:53 #83333 by STUARTF

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Yeah, I agree, nice one VonD (+ 1), I think you must have repeated yourself two/three times on the clen and beginners cycle.... I'm sure you just can't anymore, haha.

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