Ladies Cutting Cycle-Pls HELP!

Hi All! I just joined this amazing site and hope that I can get some feedback and advice. I competed in my first show in August this year, but gained nearly 20kg within a few weeks. I went to the doctor because I struggled with edema (I think it is due to the overdose of Aldactone), they tested my kidneys, liver as well as my thyroid, but all came back good. I have never been this fat before, I am following a keto diet (the one I used the last 5 weeks prior to my show) but my weight fluctuates daily with 3kg. It must be water! Anycase, to get to the point, I need to drop at least 15kg to get to my off-season weight, and compitition season (2012) is fast aproaching. I need to find out which cycle and diet you guys can advise me on to get me there asap. (please, my clothes don't fit anymore and I don't know the person staring back at me in the mirror)

I thought of using winstrol, masteron, timoxifen, proviron and maybe anavar???

Masteron and proviron defeinantly means u are not worried about being a woman any more with hair growth,clitoral enlargement and voice deepening,I would stay away from those for now completely,unless u have plastic breasts tamoxifen will make your natural ones disapear.

Post up your diet and training routine,fat burners u are using aswell,have u been put on more diuretics?

How badly did u binge eat and drink post show as well?

I do not have plastic boobs, but small breasts are the least of my wories. I want to use the gear with minimal side effects, have used all pre-contest (exept Masteron inject-heard it is ok for woman to use) and that is why I need your guidance.

Currently I follow the following keto diet:
M 1
07:00
40g whey protein
1tbs Peanut butter

M 2
10:00
1 Biogen Multivitamin
4 x full eggs
40g cheddar cheese

M 3
13:30
1 Yohimbine
150g chicken breast/Steak/ostrich meat/tuna in brine

M 4
16:45
40g whey protein
1tbs Peanut butter

M 5
20:15
1 tuna canned in brine
100g cucumber

I train 5-6 times a week, my splits are as foillows: (I started on this program this week)
M -Delts and back + 6km run
T -Sprints and Plyometrics
W -Delts, chest, calves + 6km run
T -Legs and Metabolic work (Mountain Climbers, burpees, etc.)
F -Biceps, Triceps and Abs
S -10km + Run

Dht substances are not safe for women at all,so who told u masteron is a good thing is wrong.there is to much fat in your diet to be honest,the only steroids a woman should use anavar,at a push low dose npp and maybe 10mg of proviron and some t3 add in 2ius of gh and u should be good to go,rather look at changing your diet to low carb based diet and also your cardio do something in a gym every day alternating between high intensity and lower intensity,all that high intensity cardio and work on a keto diet will eat all the muscle u have as high intensity work needs carbs to be performed.

If that is you in your avatar, I would block out the face

Better?

I train for 10-21.5km races throughout the year, started this year, but I'm really enjoying it. I binged quite a lot, for about 3 weeks or so, bad food, just to get rid of the cravings. My body swelled like hell, but I thought: 'o well, its only water' and that's why I carried on eating! This was my first time, however, and I learned my lesson the hard way. I just need to get back to my pre-contest weight, I'm very depressed.

I ordered Helios, do you think I must add T3 with that? I also heard that T3 lets you loose a lot of lean mass as well? I used pre-contest and I felt I really lost a lot, but that's mostly due to diet and cardio???

T3 is never to be used with out anabolics at all,that will eat into muscle mass,I think u really need to sort the diet out first to be honest,get some carbs in you,try and sort out your metabolic problem and get your weight gaining and loss under control,yes u will loose a lot of lean mass on keto when doing high intensity cardio work..

Thank you. What is your views on the following diet, 1600cal and taking it down every 1 or 2 weeks with 100cal? I got it from an e-book that I pruchased for figure prep. My husband however, advised me that this diet won't get me into contest ready shape, thus I only used it for 3-4 weeks and did not give it a fair chance.

180 grams of protein
44 grams of fat
120 carbs
MEAL #1
Cheesy Veggie & Turkey Bacon
Omelet with Whole Wheat Toast on
the side.
5 egg whites
1 yolk
1/3 cup 2% cheese
1 slice turkey bacon
Whole wheat toast
MEAL #2
Protein Fruit Greek Yogurt. Blend
protein, yogurt, fruit, almonds, ice, and
stevia and serve.
1 cup Oikos organic Greek yogurt
3 oz. blueberries or any fruit you like
½ scoop ProGrade Protein
7almond slivers
Ice and water
Stevia – plain or flavored
MEAL #3
Seasoned Tilapia with Baked Potato.
Grill and season tilapia to taste. Dice
and grill veggies. Stuff veggies into
baked potato and top with cheese.
5 oz tilapia
3 ½ oz baked potato
½ cup veggies
1/3 cup 2% cheese
MEAL #4
Cajun Chicken Pita
Dice and grill potato and toss in pita
with chicken and top with light dressing
or salsa.
3 ½ oz chicken breast seasoned
Whole wheat pita
1 oz baked potato diced
1-2 T salsa or light dressing
MEAL #5
Kokomo Protein Freeze. Blend
ingredients and serve.
1 ¼ scoops ProGrade Protein
3 oz pineapple
1 T. coconut
Ice and water
Stevia – plain or flavored
MEAL #6
Sizzling Steak and Sweet Potato.
Season steak with Steak Marinade
3 ½ oz select sirloin steak
4 oz sweet potato
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1600 Calories - Format #2
180 grams of protein
44 grams of fat
120 carbs
MEAL #1
Calico Eggs. Grill potatoes in a nonstick
pan. Fry eggs in a non-stick pan.
Mix eggs & potatoes together then
scramble eggs into mixture.
7 egg whites
1 yolk
2 oz sweet potato
1 ½ oz baked potato
MEAL #2
ProGrade with Apple and Almonds.
1 ¼ scoops ProGrade Protein
Small apple
6 whole almonds
MEAL #3
Creole Orange Roughy with Veggie
Stuffed Spud. Season fish with Creole
seasoning and grill. Dice veggies, grill,
and stuff into spud.
6 ½ oz orange roughy
3 ½ oz baked potato
2 cups vegetables
MEAL #4
Mediterranean Turkey and Veggie
Pita. Season and grill turkey. Dice
and grill veggies & sweet potato. Stuff
all into pita.
4 oz grilled & seasoned turkey breast
3 ½ oz sweet potato
1 cup vegetables
MEAL #5
Kokomo Protein Freeze. Blend
ingredients and serve.
1 ¼ scoops ProGrade Protein
3 oz pineapple
1 T. coconut
Ice and water
Stevia – plain or flavored
MEAL #6
Caribbean Chicken with Sweet
Potato. Coconut oil on the side.
3 ½ oz seasoned chicken breast
3 ½ oz sweet potato
½ tsp raw organic coconut oil

It comes with recipes of home-made spices, etc, and each calorie diet consist of 2 meal plans. This is for 1600, but it starts at 2800 and goes as low as 1200cal. There is low fat milk in the diet, as well as loads of fruit and yoghurt.

Do you advise me using this program instead? Do you think I must lay off a cycle for a while, or start immediately?

Depends what your BMR is. If your BMR is 1400kcals, just for your body to function normally, then you shouldn't go below that for instance. So check what your BMR is and gauge from that.
Isn't the norm to just cut out carbs few weeks out?

Yes, it is the norm, and yes, I did, but I am now POST comp. And I worked my calorie needs out via my BMR, but I am using 300cal less in order to loose weight.

Sounds about right, we usually take 10-20% off our daily caloric needs for cutting. When are you thinking of competing again?

Next year, thus I need to get back into shape asap, 7 motnhs or so left before my next show.

are u in south africa as that diet looks alot like an american diet being that some of the brands are not in this country,i wouldnt be using cheese etc in your diet in season,off season a bit wont kill u.

Annemarie wrote: Next year, thus I need to get back into shape asap, 7 motnhs or so left before my next show.

The reason why I asked is you were asking about when to start a cycle? What are you thinking of doing if I may ask?

I want to loose 10-15kg of fat asap and still have good % of body fat in order to gain a bit muscle mass and then start my prep for compitition next year.

work on gaining lean muscle from now on in towards your show keeping body fat levels the same or getting them to drop down by not over eating and doing quite a bit of volume based work outs, 7 months is along time to start dieting now. if u dont mind please post up pics of your compulsary 1/4turns with your face blocked out so we can see where you need to work... i wouldnt go as far as starting to diet now for your show.

Ok...I did not get time to take foto's yet, but got my Helios yesterday. Can you pls advise me on if the following would then be in order?

PS- I am getting married in 2 months, that's also a BIG reason why I need to drop the weight. I do not want to start dieting for the show now, I just want to get my pre-contest body back...

What if I do the following:
M1 1/3 Cup Oats with 4 Egg whites, 1 Yolk

M2 10 Almonds with Whey Protein Shake

M3 120g Chicken Breast/1 Can tuna in brine with 80g Sweet Potato and 100g Green Veg

M4 1/2 Grapefruit with Senergy Whey (Cassein and Whey blend) PS-This is my post workout meal

M5 120g Ostrich Mince/Chicken Breast with Green Salad or green veg (100g)

If I do this with my training program posted earlier, using Helios alone as a fat burner, would I get good results? I thought of leaving the Masteron and Primabolan for now. Anything else you would suggest? I want to stay away from too many hormone inbalances.