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first cycle anavar; proviron , suggestions?
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i am 21
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95kg
14 bf
not want to be presumed,, but with a very good genetic , i am a bid natural but want to cut down some bf and dont waste to much muscle in the process. i am in the right place?
For the PCT i have nolvadex , Proviron , animal stack or tribulus ( I dont have clomid )
suggestions ?
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To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.
"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie
Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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another reason its that i run some lab test, blood etc ( i study medicine ) and i have more receptorS that ´´normal´´ people , very hi testosterone and almost anithing of estrogen . Genetics ...
Some Dr say to me that a ´´soft´´ anabolic steroid on me will be like putting the strongest in other people ( because the freaking number of receptor in my body )
so i am afraid on doing something else , test
'' my balls are like two baseball balls they are freaky huge LOL
the othe reason is that i am not a bodybuilder , my cardio conditioning is very important and i dont want to be bigger i dont want more muscle mass because that will affect on others spots.
i read that anavar can increase red blood cell , true? I have my doubts.
thanks for the help bro !
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i plan to start 60mg and increase to 80mg ed oxandrolone( if needed) and 50mg Proviron
the oxa is ´´Oxadrin´´ from the hospital i work . 100pure no under labs . Real stuff .
Thanks to all for the help !!
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I can see you dropping some fat but not too much...
how much time do you have between the weigh-in and the fight?
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I can see you dropping to about 9% bodyfat in that time and the rest would have to come from getting rid of all your fluids proir to weigh in and then rehydrating yourself in time.
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Heavymma, sorry not gonna read every post again, what is the time frame you have for dropping all the weight?
To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.
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SLEON wrote: And you shouldn't use proviron for pct
Why can't he use 25mg proviron ed during pct? It shouldn't affect his natural test levels
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Thunderbeast wrote: It comes down to doing whatever you are doing as optimally as possible. so why would you want to have proviron in your pct if there is a chance of it rendering the entire pct innefective?
Losing as little as possible muscle mass... It worked for me,as far as I know doctari wrote the articles, the guy is an expert. If he says it doesn't then I believe it doesn't. I see your point tho,but I don't think it affects your pct
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jakes wrote: Don't think 25mg will cause shutdown bro. Maybe jack or dj can answer this for us? I've ran proviron while busy with pct
Proviron is a DHT steroid and there is a chance that it could cause HPTA shutdown. Obviously it will be to a much lesser degree than heavier aromatizing steroids but why even consider running it during PCT when there is no need to. Any estrogen rebound can be combatted by Nolva & Clomid in a level 1 PCT after the cycle. I can also say with almost complete certainty that doctari will be against running proviron in any kind of PCT.
@heavymma: I have just started anavar in my cycle and I have never experienced muscle pumps like this before. I was training chest yesterday and my forearms felt like they were going to explode after my 1st set. I had to rest for like 10min for the pain to go away. Same thing happened this morning during a spinning class, my quad got so pumped that I had to stop. Just thought I would let you know what you could be in for, not everyone gets it this bad i'm sure. The strength increase on Var is incredible though, and thats just after a week at 60mg/day.
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