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28 Sep 2011 14:39 #77172
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So, I always run 12 – 16 weeks cycles, and would like to try a short 6 – 8 week course (I don’t want to cycle during December), but I have some difficulty constructing a nice cycle, I will definitely take Prop @ 150mb EOD but what else will compliment this cycle nicely, dbol ? PCT will be Docs or No. 2
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So, I always run 12 – 16 weeks cycles, and would like to try a short 6 – 8 week course (I don’t want to cycle during December), but I have some difficulty constructing a nice cycle, I will definitely take Prop @ 150mb EOD but what else will compliment this cycle nicely, dbol ? PCT will be Docs or No. 2
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28 Sep 2011 14:55 #77180
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150mb - is that 150 megabytes, haha
Definatley go for prop at 150mg EOD as you suggested and try stick to 8 weeks, 6 is just not long enough IMO. The magic only really starts happening in week 4-5 in my case.
Possiibly frontload with d-bol at 40mg/day for the first 4 weeks however it is not particularly necessary for a short cycle. You could double test prop dosage for the first couple of days to get blood hormone levels up quickly, but up to you. I personally bloat hectically on d-bol so I avoid it, but thats just me. I always frontload with T-bol if I feel I need to frontload.
I would also add winny (50mg/day) for the last 4 weeks and if your budget allows run Masteron prop (100mg EOD) through out. PCT will be protocol 2 - nolva and clomid.
I take it you're doing it to get ready for the beach in December so this will give a nice simple short cutting cycle.
But before you do anything, what are your stats?
Definatley go for prop at 150mg EOD as you suggested and try stick to 8 weeks, 6 is just not long enough IMO. The magic only really starts happening in week 4-5 in my case.
Possiibly frontload with d-bol at 40mg/day for the first 4 weeks however it is not particularly necessary for a short cycle. You could double test prop dosage for the first couple of days to get blood hormone levels up quickly, but up to you. I personally bloat hectically on d-bol so I avoid it, but thats just me. I always frontload with T-bol if I feel I need to frontload.
I would also add winny (50mg/day) for the last 4 weeks and if your budget allows run Masteron prop (100mg EOD) through out. PCT will be protocol 2 - nolva and clomid.
I take it you're doing it to get ready for the beach in December so this will give a nice simple short cutting cycle.
But before you do anything, what are your stats?
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28 Sep 2011 14:59 #77182
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Age: 32
Height: 1.96
BF%: 9.2%
Weight: 93kg
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Age: 32
Height: 1.96
BF%: 9.2%
Weight: 93kg
Thanks StuartF
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28 Sep 2011 15:20 #77196
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You are already quite lean so a short prop/mast/winny cycle will yield great results. The masteron especially as one needs to be under 10% BF to get the maximum benefit from it.
My suggestion would be:
week 1 - 8 = test prop 150mg EOD
week 1 - 8 = masteron prop 100mg EOD
week 4 - 8 = wintrol 50mg ED
PCT
week 8 - 9 = clomid 100mg ED
week 10 - 13 = nolva 20mg ED
I am currently on a npp/prop/mast/eq/winny cycle and I am loving it. Hard as a rock
My suggestion would be:
week 1 - 8 = test prop 150mg EOD
week 1 - 8 = masteron prop 100mg EOD
week 4 - 8 = wintrol 50mg ED
PCT
week 8 - 9 = clomid 100mg ED
week 10 - 13 = nolva 20mg ED
I am currently on a npp/prop/mast/eq/winny cycle and I am loving it. Hard as a rock
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28 Sep 2011 15:46 #77212
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Hey StuartF, thanks for the reply, i wanted to run a npp/prop/masteron cycle, but i have left it too late and i really dont want to cycle over the festive season, but your cycle looks realy nice. Would you add Tbol week 1 - 4 ? And do you think ill develop Estrogen sides, maybe have Letrozole ready ?
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28 Sep 2011 16:03 #77215
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One of the great things about T-bol is that it is very similar to d-bol in terms of quick strength increase but it has minimal water retension. It is ideal for a lean mass cycle that focuses on inhibiting water weight and other estro sides. T-bol doesn't aromatize into estrogen so an AI is not impertitive. I would always have some letro or A-dex on hand though while running test. At 150mg prop EOD you may encounter some estro sides.
So to answer your question, yes I would include the T-bol.
So to answer your question, yes I would include the T-bol.
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28 Sep 2011 16:08 #77217
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You've been a great help, thanks
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28 Sep 2011 16:24 #77221
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can also go with superdrol...
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28 Sep 2011 16:28 #77222
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Also dose @ 40mg ED Week 1 - 4 ?
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28 Sep 2011 16:37 #77226
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Tbol 40mg-60mg
Superdrol 20mg-30mg
Superdrol 20mg-30mg
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