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I have been following this site for a while now and there are some guys with a lot of knowledge in regards to cycles.
The cycle I am thinking of doing is deca and sus
I have done deca before with no sides like deca dick and so on
The cycle is as follows 10 weeks of
500mg of sus a week shot e3d
200mg of deca a week shot with the sus
My stats
Age: 24
Weight: 94kg
Hight: 1.85m
Any advice to make this better or any advice at all, I see a lot of guys thinking of using aromasin do you have to use this or is this just to prevent gyno?
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And you won't get decent answers from the guys if you don't post your diet, gram for gram, and previous cycles.
What is your BF, and what is your goal? These guys are BBuilders- you must give them more meat
And read this post- will give you goooood info and education: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...before-posting#63949
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i have 2 cycles the first was deca and dbol.the second was test cyp from nomad labs which was nothing less then a waste of time and money that stuff didnt work how i thought it would
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Ur first two cycle looks to have been a abit of a flop. Did U do any form of pct with the previous two and a deca only cycle is always a bad idea. What where ur dosages on those first two cycle.
As for the eating clean, that can mean alot of things. The question is are u counting calories in ur diet. Do u know exactly what ur macro's are?
If ur looking for a custom diet then get hold of DJ threw admin on the " contact us " tab but he does charge.
I'd advised sorting out the diet and then looking at a plain test only cycle with a dbol kickstart.
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yeah i guess they were come 2 think about it and as much as it pains me to say i didnt really think the first one through. the second i did the right way ran the pct of nolvadex and clomid.the first one i wouldnt really talk about as it was a waste of time the second one was 500mg of test cyp a week but didnt really see any results as it was a rubbish lab(nomad) i am on 3600cal a day but i wouldnt say that it is made for me just one of those that are generic for your weight and so on..i jsut want to do things right this time and have everything in order before i do another cycle
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Post you diet, meal 1, meal 2 and so on and we can take it from there. this will be 80% of your gains.
as for your cycle, i would suggest a test only course first perhaps with a proper PCT to get you on the right track when using gear first, then we can talk about adding more to your cycles. I would like to see you get a proper cycle and pct done first. Deca and sus is not it imo.
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4 Low GI Toast
7 Eggs (2 yellows)
mid morning snack
3 scoops (100g) Evox 5XL with 400ml water
lunch
170g Skinless Chicken
240g Potato
200g Veg
post gym
(100g) Evox 5XL with 400ml water
dinner
170g Chicken
170g Sweet Potato
250g Veg
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your diet is a mess and your workouts are probably very weak compared to where they should be.
Lets hope DJ doesnt see this cause he is going to tear you a new asshole.
you need more protein, carbs and fats
suggest you do some reading here.
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...on/56925-dieting-101
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...eating-your-own-diet
www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/10-diet...-calorie-intake-help
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DJ wrote: not eating enough...
looks like you got tired of ripping people a new asshole! lol :pinch:
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Just search the forum and look at some of DJ's clients, should tell you enough of his knowledge and ability.
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topher24 wrote: that came out wrong, not doubting the mans skills at all that is the reason why i asked cause i have read a few posts with diets with more than happy cliets
I think i know what you meant, remember though there is a diffirence between getting a mealplan from DJ and sticking to it. trust me, you are going to find out how much food 3600cals really is.
good luck bud and come back with your cycle questions, dont be a dumbass and disregard what we said earlier about your proposed cycle, we are all here to learn and help!
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Etwa wrote:
Like diebare Ondier would say, brothers in steel!
hey ondier, dont kick my ass cauze i called you dierbaar ne! *nomofo*
Lol don't you get soft on me now :lol:
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Got my diet in check thanks to DJ must say its a lot of food to eat I see what you guys meant by that I will know what it is like 2 eat ha ha. But will keep you posted on how it goes:)
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Week 1-10 :
600mg testen and 300mg npp (1ml testen 1ml npp 2x a week)
Front loaded for 4 weeks with 40mg dbol.
Week 11-14
40mg winstrol orals
40mg proviron orals
Taken daily
Week 15
100mg clomid daily
Week 16,17,18
20mg kessar daily with 500iu pregnyl every 2
nd day.
Keep letro on hand incase of water or gyno
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My advice I would trade the npp for equipoise and extend the course to about 16 weeks 600mg equipoise/ week then 45 days after your last equip shot start Pct which in that interim you can runnproviron and winstrol, why I say this is DJ has a lot of food in his diets, the equip will give nice lean hard gains and increase your appetite. Diet is key remember, so force feed yourself if you have to. I did and was astounded at the results. Anyways be strong,consistent and disciplined and you will get the results you seek.
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I started my first cycle 4 weeks ago. I am doing
250mg of deca + 200mg of sustenon per week
4 dianabol tabs + 4 novadex per day
I initially gained 3 kgs in 2 weeks - from 71 kg to 74 kg but have since gained no weight though have increased strength and replaced some of the water etc. With muscle gains. My trainer is suggesting I do another 4 weeks with all same except we increase deca to 350mg.
I am 41 and been gyming for many years but never gained muscle like this before. Please advise if you think cycle is suitable for a beginner, whether 8 weeks for first is okay.
Thanks
Duncan
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