Sustanon, Anavar 1st cycle.Help with 2nd.

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23 Aug 2011 15:37 #73683 by James
Hi there,
I have recently finished my first cycle. I was told that Anavar would be mild to start with and I should cycle with Sustanon 250.
I did 6 weeks Anavar 40 mg/day for 6 weeks
I was given 10 ampules of Sustanon....could only do 8 ( 2 ampules broke).
I have Novladex as PCT.

I am 6'0. I started at 80kg. 20%body fat.I ended up at 88kg. Now that I have stopped for 4 weeks I am at 84.5kg.
I now see that some say its not the best 1st cycle to do?
My long term goal is 100kg.
Now I was told to do another cycle of just Anavar, and then I can have a break and then go onto Dbol and Decca/Sus.

Could/should I not go straight onto the dbol,decca and sus now after 10 weeks rather then Anavar first?
I have tried to find answer in prevoius post but cant.
Any usefull help would be appreciated.

Another question...is it normal to lose 4kg like my case in the period of time? Not changing much diet etc?

Thanks

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23 Aug 2011 16:39 #73690 by jackrabbit1
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So your cycle was:
8 weeks Sustenon 250mg / week
6 weeks 40 mg/day Anavar

You received all 8 Kg's from the Sustenon; 40 mg Anavar does nothing.
Lost 3.5 Kg's after short PCT of Nolva only? Not bad.

When exactly did you start the PCT? Did you wait long enough for the test to clear?

Take a 12 week break from the end of the last cycle and then plan another cycle. This time plan it a bit better and include HCG in your PCT.

More Test next time.
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23 Aug 2011 16:56 #73692 by James
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Thanks Jackrabbit,

I waited 3 weeks after the last Sustanon to start the Nolvadex. Is that correct?
After 12 weeks would you suggest Anavar again with Sustanon( since its my 2nd cycle) or can I move on to dbol and decca and Sustanon 250?

I will PCT with Nolv and HCG as you recomended..thanks

Appreciate the help

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23 Aug 2011 19:55 #73707 by MCJ
Forget about anavar and especially deca for now.

Ur not experienced enough to go jumping in the deep end with deca.

Do 10 week (at least) cycle of sust @ 500mg/week split front loaded with 40mg/day dbol for week 1 to 3 or even 4.

Get urself some letro in case ur prone to some estrogenic sides.
Pct should consist of clomid, kessar and hcg.

And remember.....forget about deca!

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24 Aug 2011 13:01 #73773 by James
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Thanks Alot for feedback MCJ.

Im glad I could get some sort of help..
I will go with yor advise and will post back here, with my stats and then ask for further help with cycle 3.

So for now dbol and sustanon....
The sustanon would you do all 500 in one go or split it 2 shots per week?
Thanks again

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24 Aug 2011 13:11 #73776 by MCJ
Split.

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24 Aug 2011 13:13 #73777 by James
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Got it thanks....Will be back here with results.
Thanks for the info.

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24 Aug 2011 13:27 #73784 by MCJ
:P

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27 Jan 2012 14:19 #90054 by James
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Good Day MCJ

I have my gear now and would like to know if I should split 40mg dbol for day or chow down all at once..
Next question... should i take prohep or livotab with it?? I was told to take it to protect my liver. Which one if any?
Thanks for your help
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27 Jan 2012 18:55 - 27 Jan 2012 18:56 #90083 by manery
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James wrote: Good Day MCJ

I have my gear now and would like to know if I should split 40mg dbol for day or chow down all at once..
Next question... should i take prohep or livotab with it?? I was told to take it to protect my liver. Which one if any?
Thanks for your help
J


ive read alot on your dbol question and the verdict was that it does not matter what you do, its going to work either way. but i still think the better idea would be to split dossages throught the day.with the sust you should try split your injections into atleast 3 times a week if you want take full advantage of the sust and its short esters,dont no either of those liver protecters, but if they contain milk thistle it couldd hinder strength gains, rather just take the liver protecters for 3-4 weeks before the cycle to make sure your liver is good and healthy and then you have nothing to worry about!!

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27 Jan 2012 19:35 #90091 by AAS

James wrote: Good Day MCJ

I have my gear now and would like to know if I should split 40mg dbol for day or chow down all at once..
Next question... should i take prohep or livotab with it?? I was told to take it to protect my liver. Which one if any?
Thanks for your help
J


Split the dosage bud. I split mine into 4 intervals a day @10mg, try not to eat any fatty foods an hour prior and an hour after. Essentiale is popular amongst users of this site for liver protection.

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28 Jan 2012 23:23 #90211 by Inja
I often split my doses into morning and pre-workout. If you are prone to side effects then splitting doses does not spike metabolite levels, and more stable hormones yield less sides. If not, then once or twice a day with orals if they are a kicker will still give nice results. The more you rely on orals throughout the cycle the more you have to split the doses...

And just to comment on the balls above about Sust, the mix was designed to give more stable blood levels compared to long esters. You can inject it two or three times a week but the effect on stable bloods is minimal. It is fine to inject once a week. And bette to inject Sust once a week then testen or cyp

Sorry if I offend you
Its just my point of view
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28 Jan 2012 23:34 #90216 by AAS

Inja wrote: I often split my doses into morning and pre-workout. If you are prone to side effects then splitting doses does not spike metabolite levels, and more stable hormones yield less sides. If not, then once or twice a day with orals if they are a kicker will still give nice results. The more you rely on orals throughout the cycle the more you have to split the doses...

And just to comment on the balls above about Sust, the mix was designed to give more stable blood levels compared to long esters. You can inject it two or three times a week but the effect on stable bloods is minimal. It is fine to inject once a week. And bette to inject Sust once a week then testen or cyp


So for a 40mg dose would you recommend 20mg morning then 20mg pre workout rather than 10mg split 4 times

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30 Jan 2012 17:07 #90448 by Inja
If your on a truck load of other gear then it doesn't matter much.
I usually tell folk to split the four ways to avoid peaks and troughs on the short half life, but my Dbol sides aren't to bad so I often go for the two doses or raise the doses around gym time.

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