Liver Flush & Milk Thistle dosage pd

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27 May 2011 14:24 #67636 by Ondier
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Good day brothers in steel

I was just wondering what the recommended dosage for Milk thistle per day is before, during and after a cycle. Also what brands are you using?

I will start my first cycle beginning July, and started with Milk Thistle to power up the liva. I will also use Essentiale with the milk thistle: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...liver-protection#198

I read some posts here about 1200mg thistle per day.

I am using Naturelle's MT and it contains 71.43mg of MT per tab - taking two a day. Am I taking the Panado of Milk Thistles?

And next Friday I will be doing the Liver Flush.
What are your opinions about a Liver Flush?:
biohouse.co.za/Liver_Flush.html

I think I might have a couple of those bile chrystals in me.

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27 May 2011 22:25 #67645 by Hard
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Ondier wrote: Good day brothers in steel

I was just wondering what the recommended dosage for Milk thistle per day is before, during and after a cycle. Also what brands are you using?

I will start my first cycle beginning July, and started with Milk Thistle to power up the liva. I will also use Essentiale with the milk thistle: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...liver-protection#198

I read some posts here about 1200mg thistle per day.

I am using Naturelle's MT and it contains 71.43mg of MT per tab - taking two a day. Am I taking the Panado of Milk Thistles?

And next Friday I will be doing the Liver Flush.
What are your opinions about a Liver Flush?:
biohouse.co.za/Liver_Flush.html

I think I might have a couple of those bile chrystals in me.



Very keen to hear to the reply to this! Interesting :)

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27 May 2011 23:11 #67647 by Eidolon
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There's nothing wrong with milk thistle. I use it on a regular basis, together with SAM-e and Cissus Q. The liver flush is not so clever though, and while the runny stomach sounds dramatic, it doesn't mean much in the bigger scheme of things, IMO. You actually run the risk of creating more problems than you cure.

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28 May 2011 06:43 #67649 by vega5
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There's a couple of theories regarding this one. Milk Thistle blunts the androgen receptors so that not the brightest idea on earth to run that through the entire cycle.

I personally believe in Legalon year round and then after PCT I hit SAM-e because there's probably nothing better in regenerating your liver than that. The reason why I prefer SAM-e post PCT is because Nolva is fairly liver toxic and I basically want all compounds out of my system before I use it.

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28 May 2011 07:17 #67650 by Ondier
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Thanks for the replies brothers

I still need to know the required mg of Milk Thistle per day?

vega5 wrote: I personally believe in Legalon year round and then after PCT I hit SAM-e because there's probably nothing better in regenerating your liver than that. The reason why I prefer SAM-e post PCT is because Nolva is fairly liver toxic and I basically want all compounds out of my system before I use it.


Vega you are spot on here brother- did about two hours of liver and Milk Thistle readings in the forum yesterday, and you basically summed up here what Doctari said over a couple of posts in different threads.

I am still in the dark with regarding to the best MT- (brand Name) and optimum dosage requirements per day.

Vega- what is your opinion on the LIver Flush? I believe that I will have a couple of bile chrystals blocking my ducts- and the only thing that bothers me from the whole flush idea is the 17 hours of fasting.

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28 May 2011 11:18 #67654 by Eidolon
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Ondier wrote: Vega- what is your opinion on the LIver Flush? I believe that I will have a couple of bile chrystals blocking my ducts- and the only thing that bothers me from the whole flush idea is the 17 hours of fasting.


Read this before you consider a liver flush: www.liversupport.com/gallbladder_disease_cleanse.htm and www.gallbladderattack.com/gallbladderandliverflush.shtml

There are many other sources warning of the risks too. The 'liver' flush you are referring to is actually a gallbladder detox, so I'm not sure if it is what you are after.

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28 May 2011 14:08 #67656 by vega5
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I actually have no clue what Liver flush is. Go to your doc and get a script for Legalon. You won't be disappointed.

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29 May 2011 09:34 #67661 by Ondier
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Thanks Vega & Eidolon

Eidolon I see on the links there might be risks but the advantages surpasses the risk factor for me- especially since I abused my body over the past 15 years- I just think this might work out good for me.

I'm doing the flush on Friday- will let you know what happened.

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29 May 2011 12:15 #67665 by ABC01
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vega5 wrote: There's a couple of theories regarding this one. Milk Thistle blunts the androgen receptors so that not the brightest idea on earth to run that through the entire cycle.

I personally believe in Legalon year round and then after PCT I hit SAM-e because there's probably nothing better in regenerating your liver than that. The reason why I prefer SAM-e post PCT is because Nolva is fairly liver toxic and I basically want all compounds out of my system before I use it.


Legalon is milk thistle in a concentrated form

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29 May 2011 12:28 #67666 by vega5
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ABC01 wrote:

vega5 wrote: There's a couple of theories regarding this one. Milk Thistle blunts the androgen receptors so that not the brightest idea on earth to run that through the entire cycle.

I personally believe in Legalon year round and then after PCT I hit SAM-e because there's probably nothing better in regenerating your liver than that. The reason why I prefer SAM-e post PCT is because Nolva is fairly liver toxic and I basically want all compounds out of my system before I use it.


Legalon is milk thistle in a concentrated form

It is indeed. But as I understand it, it doesn't effect the androgen receptors.

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29 May 2011 12:43 #67668 by ice-rip
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Ondier wrote: Thanks Vega & Eidolon

Eidolon I see on the links there might be risks but the advantages surpasses the risk factor for me- especially since I abused my body over the past 15 years- I just think this might work out good for me.

I'm doing the flush on Friday- will let you know what happened.

Whats sam e

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29 May 2011 12:58 #67669 by ice-rip
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i was using the solal milk thistle. Is legalon better. And is what you saying that normal milk thistle will affect the dbols on the front load

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29 May 2011 14:59 #67674 by 00pump
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SAMe regenerates liver cells while milk thistle if more of a detoxifying agent and not that effective .. SAMe comes with a nice price tag though ;)

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29 May 2011 17:31 #67683 by Ondier
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ice-rip wrote: i was using the solal milk thistle. Is legalon better. And is what you saying that normal milk thistle will affect the dbols on the front load


This is what I would like to know as well- I will be using the MT especially for the dbols.

OR let me rephrase- I will be using the Legalon after pct then- should I use SAMe during the cycle?

I don't want to drink anything that breaks down the dbol or destroy the dbol effect?

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30 May 2011 08:24 #67703 by Pumped
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Ondier wrote:

ice-rip wrote: i was using the solal milk thistle. Is legalon better. And is what you saying that normal milk thistle will affect the dbols on the front load


This is what I would like to know as well- I will be using the MT especially for the dbols.

OR let me rephrase- I will be using the Legalon after pct then- should I use SAMe during the cycle?

I don't want to drink anything that breaks down the dbol or destroy the dbol effect?

Thanks


You use Legalon during youre cycle and MT after your cycle.

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30 May 2011 09:05 #67706 by vega5
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Pumped wrote:

Ondier wrote:

ice-rip wrote: i was using the solal milk thistle. Is legalon better. And is what you saying that normal milk thistle will affect the dbols on the front load


This is what I would like to know as well- I will be using the MT especially for the dbols.

OR let me rephrase- I will be using the Legalon after pct then- should I use SAMe during the cycle?

I don't want to drink anything that breaks down the dbol or destroy the dbol effect?

Thanks


You use Legalon during youre cycle and MT after your cycle.

Thanks Pumped, exactly what i'm trying to get at. But you can use Legalon right through the year if you want.

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30 May 2011 09:08 #67707 by Ondier
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Ok got it and will do brothers

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02 Jun 2011 15:58 - 02 Jun 2011 18:28 #67947 by Ondier
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Good afternoon fellow metal benders

So I did the Liver Flush last night. I feel f@ckin amazing today- super levels and super strong. Not sure how it will go in the gym- but I feel like my organs got a turbo charger.

Years and years' of bile stones that came out. I weighed them, and they were close to 100g! Imagine your Liver en galblasie carrying all of this junk every day, trying to do their best with these green peas that block their ducts.

Some of them were as big as my thumb.

HEre are some pics of them:




Let me know what you think of my babies! :-)

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02 Jun 2011 16:02 #67950 by 00pump
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a liver flush, wtf?

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02 Jun 2011 16:03 #67951 by 00pump
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A colon cleanse?

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02 Jun 2011 16:08 #67952 by Ondier
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Hehehe

Not sure if it is the same thing brother - used the liver flush from my Biokineticist

biohouse.co.za/Liver_Flush.html

You don't need the Lactologic- they are just good goggas like inteflora.

He checked a drop of blood and saw that my Liver was getting very swaar.

So this is what I did :-)

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02 Jun 2011 16:58 #67959 by ice-rip
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um question. Did you shit those out and how did you retrieve them to take a pic.

Ok so my doc gave me a script for legalon. Are we 100 percent sure that this wont affect the dbol and arimidex. Or would a better way be to wait till the 4 weeks front load is over then start legalon

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02 Jun 2011 17:06 #67962 by Ondier
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Hehehe

YEs Ice-Rip

I had my last meal yesterday at 14h- then started the Liver FLush around 17h- by 18h last night my stomach was empty and just water stools. Did everything according to the recipe- this morning the stones came- they are light and they float- and believe it or not- no smell at all. Just "clean" water with Bile stones. just scooped them off and rinsed them.

I'm also still interested re

ice-rip wrote: Are we 100 percent sure that this wont affect the dbol and arimidex. Or would a better way be to wait till the 4 weeks front load is over then start legalon


Would also like to know as I want to start the same cycle

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02 Jun 2011 18:20 #67965 by Fakey_AK
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that is the miffest thing i've seen in a while and im busy cooking. Damn so all those little rocks came out of u?

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02 Jun 2011 18:25 #67966 by Ondier
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lmao yes Fakey :-)

Maybe not the nicest thing to share but I'm a proud father :-)

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