3rd cycle - Oral Tbol and anavar

Yes, 3 x 0.5ml/week will be fine. Test mix 325 contains 325mg/ml and supertest contains 320mg/ml which is basically the same.

okay cool T Mix it will be then!

If you have not read it can cause gyno then you have not been doing much reading

It causes gyno by lowering DHT and raising estrogen. DHT is also a natural AI our body has. So suppressing this will cause more room for development of gynecomastia.

Also the infertility is not something to overlook, 1 second on google you will see hundreds of cases where people become infertile due to the use of propecia.

Dude thank goodness you said it can give you gyno, I mean I read the info on the Cipla site about it, and ofcourse they arent guna tell you that there are thousands of people worldwide who have post finasteride syndrome, high estrogen levels, high prolactin levels, high progesterone levels - low test levels and all because of this drug! Ive taken one but its the last one ill be consuming, i'll rather shave my head when all my hairline gets a lil outta control and be bald. Some ladies like it anyway umm, do u think the one that I took could have any negative effect on me? I saw that someone got permanent hormonal imbalance from taking 1 mg a day for a month. This stuff is flipping scary how is it still prescribed by doctors?

Damn I wasted my money on that crap could have been half way to a vial of test

Dude, some people with just taking this drug for a week supply has permanent problems

Watch this video then tell me what you think



I am shit scared of that drug, and only 3 drugs make me feel that way, DNP, Insulin and Finasteride.

Not to be funny and I don't know if this is the truth with all doctors, but if a side effect isn't listed as common effect, doctors are so busy with day to day patients and follows up and other Seminars they don't put the same effort you or I might on 1 particular drug. Remember they need to know a fair share of info about allot of drugsnot like us who uses XYZ and can know allot about a few drugs

Yeah dude I saw this video, I'm very nervous right now! I think I'll be okay though, one dose and i just induced vomitting. So that should hopefully get rid of it. Hahaha.

Why are you scared of DNP (what is this) and Insulin?

LoL, if you not a diabetic or have a reason to use insulin don't. When your body stops producing it, enjoy injecting for the rest of your life.

DNP side effect = death. Do some research on this drug and you will see why. Dude, when I took it, I'm not joking it felt like my insides where burning up. Scary scary scary drug.

Yeah, dont worry i never planned on it hahaha, Im so conservative with this stuff. Like many drugs tickle my fancy - like equipoise - sounds like a nice drug, lean gains, minimal water retention, min/no hairloss. Just it has to be run for long and its pricey. Tren i wouldnt touch - that shit scars me, and deca too. I think that I wouldnt reli take anything besides test, tbol and anavar and ofcourse ancillaries like nolva, clomid and proviron.

Wow that DNP stuff is intense, haha. Not suprised I knew nothing about it, intense burn fat fast drugs arent exactly my regular search hahaha.

Why did you take it? Pre contest?

When I was still in London a few years back I was going to compete before all my complications, was 20+ kgs heavier than now

My time is up, now I just try help others not make the same mistake...

Why do you say you had complications? What are your stats now and what were they at your best? How many cycles have you done, and wwat kind of dosages have you used? Anything wild that'll blow my mind?

pump has almost every problem you can think of and used dosages that will make you laugh out of disbelief, but man does he know his shit!!!

needToJumpOnCourse wrote: Why do you say you had complications? What are your stats now and what were they at your best? How many cycles have you done, and wwat kind of dosages have you used? Anything wild that'll blow my mind?

Frikkie kind of summed it up

Currently around 104kgs at 9/10%. Best around 122kgs at 6.4% bodyfat

No way to tell how many cycles I have done, used gear for 12 years and use gear most of the year. Now currently just using anavar and trying to actually lose weight (mass), need to get my weight down to protect my heart and kidneys

thats intense dude! WOW those are some stats, you must have looked greek god like at 122 6.4% that is just tooo crazzzy! Have you seen any markably intense side effects of year round juicing for 12 years? I mean is there an obvious negative effect on your HPTA, would you experience a huge hormonal crash if you discontinued juice altogether? Or is cycling with very good pct practises sustainable?

Hrm, using gear all year round has caused.

- Kidney failure
- Enlarged heart
- Blood pressure that is controlled with 3 different types of medication
- Prostrate enlarged
- 2 operations for gyno
- Heart attack
- Depression when trying to come off gear (very hard to stop using gear when you used it for long peroids of time)

I never meant to abuse, just sites like this never existed so I never had a place to come to and hear expert answers. The guys I took advice from where the Mass Monsters, ja they where big, where they healthy? no. Did they really know what they where talking about? No..

Yes sites like steroid.com existed however they gave you information like, take 80mg of Nolva a day to get rid of gyno. Did I try this? Yes, did it screw me up? Ofcourse.

Would I change anything? Naa, learnt what I needed to from my mistakes, I'll leave competing to people like Spike and DJ

Wow dude that post was so sad to read!

How quickly did side effects like this begin to rear their heads? I mean If i were to take juice at the regular doses like 500 mg/ week test and proviron, could i experience such pronounced complications, I mean how early on in your career did you experience issues surrounding an enlarged heart? I mean these things are all very dangerous! Did you have the gyno operations before you knew how to combat it with letro? (In other words a long time ago?)

Yes, I can relate with the depression. I think it's depressing coming off gear even when you've been using for 5 weeks and ppl are telling you how good you looking and you know you gotta start pct and loose a bit before u can start course again. SUX!!! hahaha, yeah Id like to know their stats...

btw what happened when you took 80 mg of nolva? I can see why you thought it would help, considering nolva is meant to stop gyno from occuring.

Okay guys, one thing I still need to know is how long should i wait after my last shot before starting the first week of clomid for pct? Since T-Mix has the decanoate ester, should i wait 15 -18 days after my last shot?

Yes