the big debate insulin........

i have done 4 cycles before the last 2 being decent cycles involving test/dbol/equi/tren/anavar/whinny and dont think i hav left any out..... now i hav been considering another cycle of 10 weeks involving:

front loading 20days of 25mg dbol
600mg or 900mg test enanthate a week for the entire cycle
also want to run heat the thermogenic the entire cycle to keep my fat down and shred me a bit as i know i am on the plus bodyfat now..especially where my abs were!

now i was thinking of running 700mg equi a week BUT i want to change this for insulin... start at 3iu daily i have researched thoroughly but my mates still all say im nuts.....

on the pct side i want to keep heat going as it stops cortisol production
and kessar/nolvadex 40mg a day for 15 days
and ovidrel 250iu

i know the slin will do amazing things so lets hear everyones input! ps i work at a pc all day so keeping an eye on my blood sugar levels is easy!

as i mate i dont think u are nuts,i know that u are.

right now at only doing 4 decent cycles and wanting to go for slin i think u are nuts, rather wait till the muti alone doesnt work then think about pushing up to slin...its like stubbing your toe and getting a plaster cast on instead of plaster...

lol u tune me on mxit and now on here within 5mins from eachother haha... no i get what ur saying bud but slin is just sticking to a exact program on how things work...timing..

your choice but u gonna have to phone weight watchers and not me when u get fat....

LOL I started cardio daily as of today every morning then weights 5 days a week in evening! and on heat...considering adding wasp to it

i say no more...as a mate,i know u champ,u dont have the dedication and discipline to use slin,but hey,i am not the one doing it,its all in your hands.good luck with it...

yea ryt now i probably dont have the dedication but it is in me well it was until 3 months ago lol...... but yea... i got my dedication back and gonna keep it check u later bud

tiburon, how muscular are you?

Remember that slin only does wonders it you have allot of muscle mass already...

I can explain in more detail, but I'm in a hurry at the moment....

i honestly dont think im muscular enough yet...but in a months time i should be good to go.. muscle memory should have kicked in fully by then and the way im eating and training now should have me on a decent body fat and my gains should be back... im lucky as i am thick muscularly but i hav lost a bit of muscle due to 3 months off.. i hav promised myself naturally to get back and then hit my cycle.

oh one thing i have amazing muscle memory... dunno how but i do!

and u expect to gain the 15kgs of msucle u lost is a month... dude you must be like a unicorn coz i will believe it when i see it...

dude im 87kg was 92 wen i stopped training! will get my shape back by month end watch! not back up to 92 but maybe 90... we can run a bet on it

ok heading home now...wil b back on wen im home to continue the discussion lol...

how about this,if u get up to 90kgs again in a month,regaining your muscle mass and no fat,i will roll u into the hospital when u go hypo from the insulin... how about that...

lol how about this... if i do this then u admit i have got what it takes and plus u wont need to roll me into the hospital coz i wont go hypo

what if u put on 3kgs of muscle and not a single gram of fat by the end of September,its on.but i know its not gonna happen...now this is naturally we talking before u start your cycle...i'll admit it..but i know its not gonna happen.

dude i know 3kgs a month no fat only muscle natural is almost impossible but im gonna fight my ass off stil