Cutting cycle: Test prop/NPP/Masteron prop progres

Hey ABC.

Sounds like you really had fun with this one

Bud, your prop - what was the dosage per ml and how many vials did you go through over the 8 weeks?

Thanks.

Peace...

Its the PGW test prop. Its 100mg/ml and you would need 10 vials. There is no discomfort of any kind with the test prop post injection. All the stuff i use is PGW or LP. I have no reason to even consider another brand

Thanks for that ABC - i intend only using PGW.

Im sorry if i sound a bit dumb here - but why 10 vials?

If 1 vial is 10ml and its 100mg/ml, you get basically 1000mg per vial.

If you pin 100mg eod, it means you pin 400mg per week right?

so 400mg x 8weeks gives you 3200mg.

3200mg translates to 4 vials.

Obviously i have taken into account spillage/unavoidable wastage etc...

I was never good at math so please expose my flaws with the above?

Thanks bud.

Peace...

rowan, some weeks u will pin 400mg,some weeks 300mg.... so its an average of 350mg a week.

Thanks DJ - so that means i still wont need as much as 10 vials.
It still works out to 4 10ml vials at most.

Shot bud

I never get more than around 9 ml. I calculate 3 weeks / vial and then just get 1 vial backup to split up between the weeks.

i must admit since pgw brought out the flip off caps i have been getting close to 10ml a vial,i would say my last shout of a vial is 0.65ml

DJ wrote: i must admit since pgw brought out the flip off caps i have been getting close to 10ml a vial,i would say my last shout of a vial is 0.65ml

Mine probably would as well, but i cheat on myself more often than not. :whistle:

Sorry bud! That would be 3 vials. My bad! I actually got a bonus pin out of my masteron prop vial. Very impressed

Final stats after 8 weeks:
81.5kg/11%bf
Gained 4.9kg in the 8 weeks and lost 1.5% bf. Not at 10% which was my goal but im still happy. The diet took a beating the last couple of weeks so i guess i could have come close to that 10%.
I hope this info helps somebody that is considering a cutting cycle in the future. With my next cycle i'll add some clen and T3 to help with that bf.

ABC..i was searching for the exact cycle you just completed and your log was fantastic. Answered almost every question. But I have 2 quick ones if you dont mind.
You took prop ED vs EOD correct?
What was your PCT and on cycle therapy..arimidex?

Just finishing off my first Test C / Winny cycle and looking to plan ahead. Want some lean gains vs the bulk of 25 pounds I put on .

cbb2020 wrote: ABC..i was searching for the exact cycle you just completed and your log was fantastic. Answered almost every question. But I have 2 quick ones if you dont mind.
You took prop ED vs EOD correct?
What was your PCT and on cycle therapy..arimidex?

Just finishing off my first Test C / Winny cycle and looking to plan ahead. Want some lean gains vs the bulk of 25 pounds I put on .

arimadex is only used on cycle for estrogen control,its an aromatize inhibitor which stops the conversion of testosterone into estrogen through aromatization. you would add in Arimadex if you suffer from estrogen based side effects such as gyno and water retention...

your PCT for this cycle will be day 1-7 100mg clomid (split up to twice daily) day 8-29 20mg kessar daily and 500iu HCG eod. for more information on the PCT protocol look under the pct section for a sticky named Doctari PCT

cbb2020 wrote: ABC..i was searching for the exact cycle you just completed and your log was fantastic. Answered almost every question. But I have 2 quick ones if you dont mind.
You took prop ED vs EOD correct?
What was your PCT and on cycle therapy..arimidex?

Just finishing off my first Test C / Winny cycle and looking to plan ahead. Want some lean gains vs the bulk of 25 pounds I put on .

Glad the thread helped! I took 100mg test prop eod. Its a mediocre dosage but im still at a stage where i get good results on low dosages. I took letrozole @ 0,1mg (1drop) eod starting 1 week before cycle and stopped 1st day of pct (tapering down off course). It was more than enough for me. Your system takes a beating though in you start to feel nackered after 6weeks. If you can, arimidex on cycle is a better option.

For pct i used clomid @ 50mg x 2 ed for 1st 7 days. Then 4 weeks of nolvadex @ 20mg ed. HCG i started using 2days after cycle @ 500iu eod till the 5000IU bottle is finished. I would rather go with the pct like DJ has put it. Im recovering well though. My balls are already bigger than they were before i started the cycle:laugh:

I was happy and you will be happy as well. If your bf is higher than 10% i might leave out the masteron and rather push up dosages on the test prop and NPP and run winstrol for a full 6 weeks @ 50mg ed. Think that would give better visible results.

What dosages do you have in mind?

Thanks for the quick reply.I was going to run the prop at 500 per week ( I'm 46) and I'll stick with arimidex since I already have supply. Did you get the dreaded "deca **ck". I'm in the states and have never heard of PGW before. Sounds like good gear.

PGW is amazing. I have no reason to use anything else. You hear horror stories about off gear. Manufactured here in South Africa so you wont be able to get it. My advice is stick with the mainstream brands in the US. The slightly higher price is nothing. Peace of mind is priceless!

I never got the dreaded deca dick. As a matter of fact i had a constant hard on and my sex drive was sky high. Think that was the masteron.

ABC what did this cycle cost you?

Yeah i've been waking up with morning wood like i'm 16 again!
Are AAS legal in SA? In the states it can be very tricky to find, especially now since a XXL large source has bit taken down. Read between those lines..lol

Steroids are illegal in SA if you don't have a prescription. But this is Africa and i don't think that anyone gives a crap about steroids. Bro they give a crap about things like coce and ex but i can get this shit 500m from my house ,what a fucked up country we live in Law and politics wise that is.

@ cbb2020

I would get some PGW gear if i were you and take it back to the states.Oh and at least get some LP orals as well. The vials could be hard to disguise when you fly back but if you think smart i think you could smuggle in some 10 vials or so.

I hear ya man. In the states they worry about the damnest things. Worry more about roids vs national debt and what country we're going to "liberate"

First I need to get to SA. I'm stuck in middle America with snow up to my bung hole !

Shame bro we have nice 27*C days here now and it's lekka.

You know how to make me feel better !

Pumped wrote: @ cbb2020

I would get some PGW gear if i were you and take it back to the states.Oh and at least get some LP orals as well. The vials could be hard to disguise when you fly back but if you think smart i think you could smuggle in some 10 vials or so.

Are you crazy giving advice like this?

cbb2020 wrote: I hear ya man. In the states they worry about the damnest things. Worry more about roids vs national debt and what country we're going to "liberate"

First I need to get to SA. I'm stuck in middle America with snow up to my bung hole !

Where in middle America you from bud?

tintin wrote: ABC what did this cycle cost you?

Dont want to discuss exact prices but it wasnt expensive. Juice with all accessories was about mid 3000 mark