Second cycle

Hi

first cycle was a great success, now I am looking at 2nd cycle options, I want to start saving up....

first cycle was test e @ 600mg per week for 10 weeks. pct was completed...

So i was thinking of the following cycle for lean mass.

week 1-10 test E @600mg per week.
week 1-10 winny injectable. (unsure of dosages, I want to go for the oil based version)
week 9-12 winny orals @ 40mg per day
PCT
week 9-10 hcg @ 250iu eod
week 10-12 hcg @ 500iu eod
week 13 clomid @ 100mg for 5 days then 50mg for the next 5 days
after clomid is completed : kessar @ 20mg per day

support supplements like liver support, anti oxidant... will be added
Diet is in order with nutritionist and will be a high protein diet.

any advice would be appreciated.

How about week 1-10 640mg Supertest
week 7-12 60mg Var. Simple and effective.

Hey bud

I wouldn't sugggest doin winny right threw the cycle, ur liver will be fucked (liver support or not)

Milktuds idea's isn't bad and if the var is too pricey swap out for winny inj. in the last six weeks upto pct.

u could even add some deca, eq or primo depending on that budget. (hate the budget)

Any how let us know and we can help some more

thanx guys,

Supper test and winny injectable.

so I will run the Winny injectable for the last 6 weeks of my cycle?
what dosages should I inject with the winny?
oil based or water based winny?
how often do I inject the winny and super test?

Pct will consist of clomid, kessar, hcg.

any other suggestions?

If you can get the oil based winny you can mix that in one syringe along with the test.
Supertest pin twice per week. 1ml each.
Winny, 100mg EOD. Otherwise use winny tabs. 30-50mg/day.

I don't like the way it mixes

00pump wrote: I don't like the way it mixes

What do you mean 00pump?

If he goes for oil based winny he will still only be mixing it once a week with the test, seeing as the test is twice a week and the winny eod. Not really gonna make a big difference.

Oil yes, water based I don't like to mix with oils. It just takes more time that it's worth to have it mix nicely.. I get irritated and flick it hard to get rid of bubbles and just get more. By that time I am already pinned my calf or quad or something.

Just remember it doesn't matter if it's water or oil based the easter remains the same same doesn't effect the half life as Fakey_AK just mentioned above.

If you have a problem, move over to the tablets or drink the water based one.

00pump wrote: Oil yes, water based I don't like to mix with oils. It just takes more time that it's worth to have it mix nicely.. I get irritated and flick it hard to get rid of bubbles and just get more. By that time I am already pinned my calf or quad or something.

Just remember it doesn't matter if it's water or oil based the easter remains the same same doesn't effect the half life as Fakey_AK just mentioned above.

If you have a problem, move over to the tablets or drink the water based one.

Hey 00pump, sorry if there was confusen with my post. What i meant was he wants to use the oil base as he can mix it with the supertest ( i think). Even so he will inly be mixing the two once a week together, if he pins the winny eod.

eg. Supertes - mon - thurs
winny - mon, wed, fri, sun, tues, thurs

( hoop nie ek het die hond by die ballas beet hier nie? )

I heard that the oil based helps the juice get trough the liver???

comparing prices, I might just as well save up a bit more and go for the 60mg var for 6 weeks.

But what would yield the best results?
What would be the safest?


if I worked it out correctly it would be about 350mg per week of winny injectable? the oil based one comes as 100mg/ml 10ml vials...

okay so I have done some comparisons between var and winny, If I am correct var will be the safest...?

My cycle will be:
week 1-10 supper test @ 640mg per week
week 8-12 var @ 60 mg per day

PCT

week 8-10 hcg @ 250iu eod
week 10-12 hcg @ 500iu eod
week 13 clomid @ 100mg for 5 days then 50mg for 5 days
after clomid is completed kessar @ 20 mg per day ...

what do you guys think about cycle and pct?

do i need to ad anything important?

Loiuis wrote: I heard that the oil based helps the juice get trough the liver???

comparing prices, I might just as well save up a bit more and go for the 60mg var for 6 weeks.

But what would yield the best results?
What would be the safest?


if I worked it out correctly it would be about 350mg per week of winny injectable? the oil based one comes as 100mg/ml 10ml vials...

There is no way using winstrol in oil base will help it better pass through the liver, winstrol is a 17aa compound which makes it possible to pass through the liver without being destroyed.

The only advantages I can think of is you can get a higher concentration when using oil and the shots will not be as painful.

thanks for clarifying 00pump.

I assume my cycle is sound then???

Loiuis wrote: okay so I have done some comparisons between var and winny, If I am correct var will be the safest...?

My cycle will be:
week 1-10 supper test @ 640mg per week
week 8-12 var @ 60 mg per day

PCT

week 8-10 hcg @ 250iu eod
week 10-12 hcg @ 500iu eod
week 13 clomid @ 100mg for 5 days then 50mg for 5 days
after clomid is completed kessar @ 20 mg per day ...

what do you guys think about cycle and pct?

do i need to ad anything important?

PCT

week 11 and 12 hcg @ 250iu eod (take it you want the nuts to start firing here?)
week 13 and 14 hcg @ 500iu eod
week 13 clomid @ 100mg for 7 days
after clomid is completed kessar @ 20 mg per day ...

thanx milktuds,

I read somewhere that I shouldn't use Hcg and clomid together, apparently it works against each other?

Not sure bud, I've run a similar PCT before.