beginner cycle

Hi there if got the following nomadlab nomatest combo 300,deca 300 and 10mg dianabols want to know the dosage and the quality of the products thanks

Hey juicebro

First off if its a cycle you are planning give us some stats otherwise the guys will not give you the replies you want.

Age= ?
Weight= ?
Height= ?
Bodyfat%= ?
Years training= ?
Diet=?

age 30
weight 94kg
height 1.85

bodyfat 15 to 20 %

training 4jr
diet 5 good meals a day

U need to get that bf% down. Cycling on that bf% will only make u add more bf.

15-20% ? is a huge GAP bud. Okay what is your goals, it is preferred that the bf% drops to about 12 before starting a cycle.

And 5 good meals a day wont do bud. You need to weigh your food know what is your protein, carb and fat intake. I am not the diet pro on this forum but the diet guru is DJ, for most guys on this forum he does custom diets he charges but it works like a charm. His info is at the contact us bar.

Getting the diet right is your first step mate. Then the training part then the juice. And sorry bud for this but Nomad is shit in my opinion it is very underdosed if you can return it to your dealer it will be great and rather just hit a test only cycle from PGW.

If your body fat is 15% i don't see why you cant give it a crack, as long as you are aware that with those compounds you are going to gain some more BF unless diet as 100% aimed against that.

6 meals would be your min bud but as Rooz said contact DJ he will make your cycle go from average to awsum... diet is 80+% of the gains you will make.

Those are actually some of the few Nomad products that work minus the D-bol they are shit, use up those first vials then hook up PGW.
>Also you do know that your cycle will need to be longer than a vial of each of those compounds??
>What have you got planned for PCT??

Cycle would look like this:

>D-Bol, week 1-2, 40mg, ED.
>Test, week 1-14, 2ml per week split in 2.
>Deca, week 1-12, 1ml per week split in 2.

PCT from week 17!

Peace

Mr Moose wrote:

If your body fat is 15% i don't see why you cant give it a crack, as long as you are aware that with those compounds you are going to gain some more BF unless diet as 100% aimed against that.

6 meals would be your min bud but as Rooz said contact DJ he will make your cycle go from average to awsum... diet is 80+% of the gains you will make.

Those are actually some of the few Nomad products that work minus the D-bol they are shit, use up those first vials then hook up PGW.
>Also you do know that your cycle will need to be longer than a vial of each of those compounds??
>What have you got planned for PCT??

Cycle would look like this:

>D-Bol, week 1-2, 40mg, ED.
>Test, week 1-14, 2ml per week split in 2.
>Deca, week 1-12, 1ml per week split in 2.

PCT from week 17!

Peace

Moose, you won't believe how glad I am that you replied in such a diplomatic manner.

I've been wanting to take this up for a while now but I couldn't be bothered so now is as good a time as any.

We seem to have adopted certain "rules" on this forum that is really not helping with attracting new member but even worse chasing current members away because the same old shit gets spoken about every single day.

Let me explain, we have a couple of rules that we stand by, them being: You must be over 23 to use AAS, get a diet from DJ, don't use Nomad, BF must be under 12%. I mean come on can't we use our brains and think of more dynamic conversation instead of regurgitated the same old info (opinions) every time.

The other day I tried to form a discussion on getting your naturally low test levels back to normal but what happened, certain members started going off point and screwed up the entire goal of the conversation.

Now the guys that find this post offensive, well that's your problem. See it for what it is and think about it.

Vega have some Karma fellow "anti-conformist" ha ha true that though gets old.....

Peace

Thanks took my bodyfat today +- 13 % will contact dj and get pgw but what tipe of test must i get ? So you guys think i must go test on its own or deca and dianabol with it thanks

I must say Vega that the post is i think how most of the guys feel like on this forum. The reason why most say dj is He actually knows his nutrition and diets. Now i dont use them as i like to learn myself and educate myself to do it myself ( No offence to the squirrel he always gives me advice on diets ).

As for the age well as most guys and people and medical experts will state is be over 23. Well dont we all know a couple of guys that started younger. I am one of them, i started at 19 and my natural test and health is in fit shape. But i know it was not the best way to go about it as i was uneducated.

And for Nomad well i used it and damn i really disliked the product as the gains were minor. And as for BF% i climbed on a nice bulking cycle and just watched my diet and dropped from 20% to 16% and gained awesome results.

I am with you that some members me aswell got in a state of mind that what is the right way to go about it and that is that period. and if you read some posts it is rather a put down from the total forum idea.

Don't get me wrong, DJ is one of the most knowledgeable guys I've met on nutrition but my point is that no one can come here to get some honest dieting advice and two posts later its said that DJ must be contacted.

There's very few members that really gives advice without prejudice.

i am always willing to help guys with diets and things like that but it gets bit much when u have to spell things out to the vega hence the reason i charge guys for well constructed nutrition plans that are custom,that being said if i just hand out meal plans to everyone the guys that have paid for them will be very bitter with me.

thing is i have written tons of replies in regards to dieting,telling people what they should change etc,what food sources would be better to use,that sort've thing,so i do help out alot like that,but if they are asking for me to spell it out for them and guide them step by step then i tell them to get a custom diet.

the point about nomad is we dont like guys waisting their money on gear and then come back and are unhappy with results etc,so thats why pgw is put out there every time for the sole purpose of guys not wasting their money.

the point about getting your bf down before a cycle is this : the fat storage pattern on their body might be from high estrogen levels,so u dont wanna add a long ester test to that which can cause more fat gain in those areas,also at the highher end of the bf scale the body is used to storing excess calories in the fat cells rather than using it for muscle repair...

there is no set rules and i appreciate alot of the guys punting my services,it just takes the guess work out of nutrition and makes sure they know what they are in for with out making 45mistakes along that path...but that being said i have done quite a few informative threads about dieting in the diet section which guys seem a little lazy to read.

I know you've given plenty advice before and still do. The point of my post is that we're not always that willing to engage in a proper debate because I think some/most (me included) members have very limited knowledge and we're always picking the easy route when we give these recommendations.

This will be my last post on this matter as I think I've made my point.

DJ wrote:

the point about getting your bf down before a cycle is this : the fat storage pattern on their body might be from high estrogen levels,so u dont wanna add a long ester test to that which can cause more fat gain in those areas,also at the highher end of the bf scale the body is used to storing excess calories in the fat cells rather than using it for muscle repair...

I WISH I HAD READ THIS BEFORE MY LAST COURSE!!!
I now know exactly where i went wrong!! My BF was not low enough to start with! And not enough rest!
Sorry for the Hijack, but had to say this!!!

Cant believe how much money i have wasted!!

Mr_SA, this has been mentioned numerous times on the forum. Vega even highlighted it in his post as well.

So the money wasted was due to your own accord don't you think?

Rest is one of the key elements to muscle growth / repair. With or without gear involved.
BF% should also be a given and you have also been on the forum to know this.

Reason why we advise these is particularly around that fact that guys battle with results. This is not us being difficult, just experience talking.

Netro wrote:

Mr_SA, this has been mentioned numerous times on the forum. Vega even highlighted it in his post as well.

So the money wasted was due to your own accord don't you think?

Rest is one of the key elements to muscle growth / repair. With or without gear involved.
BF% should also be a given and you have also been on the forum to know this.

Reason why we advise these is particularly around that fact that guys battle with results. This is not us being difficult, just experience talking.

Thansk, i do know it was my own fault... i am just kicking myself and typing out what i was thinking...

I guess we (I) always just want to believe that we (I) are different, and that advice, based on almost sometimes "generic" answers are not always for us (Me)!

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Netro wrote:

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