Test Prop and NPP vs Test Cyp and Deca

Just wonder which would be better for bulking...

Test Prop 150mg EOD for 8 weeks
Nandro Prop 100mg EOD for 6 weeks

OR

Test Cyp 600mg per week for 12 weeks
Deca 400mg per week for 10 weeks.

I like the idea of the short esters since they are quicker to start seeing results but also out the system quicker. But do you sacrifice some growth or bulk with a shorter cycle? Or would results be similar?

2nd option is better for bulking... longer ester test will make u bigger but will hold lots of water.

if you're leaving it up to one cycle then the second option would be better as Dj said but IMO with the shorter cycles you will recover faster and will be able to start another cycle sooner than if you went the cypionate and deca route
just my 2c

I agree with Jayman on the short cycle = faster recovery.

DJ, why do you say long esters will make you bigger than short esters ?

you'll have more water retention using the longer acting esters.
(sorry about jacking the thread a bit here - Dj have you received my mail dude?)

Jayman wrote:

if you're leaving it up to one cycle then the second option would be better as Dj said but IMO with the shorter cycles you will recover faster and will be able to start another cycle sooner than if you went the cypionate and deca route
just my 2c

So if you were to look at it over a year...

8 weeks on 8 weeks off for a year of Prop and NPP would be better then a year of Deca and Cyp 12 weeks on 12 weeks off??? (ignoring PCT just for comparison)

Still aiming at bulking.

well look at how many cycles you're planning on doing this year.
remember time on cycle + PCt = time off
this is a rough estimate and you may need longer to recover from a cycle, but generally you'll recover much faster from a short cycle since you're natural test has on been suppressed for 6-8 weeks not 12-16weeks.
you get what I'm saying?

I get it. But is that essentially what it would boil down to? The amount of time on or number of cycles. Or do the esters attached also effect the steroids effectiveness in bulking. Besides the water retention previously mentioned.

I could fit in two 12 week Cyp and Deca cycles in a year with adequate PCT or three 8 week Prop and NPP cycles. Which is ideally the decision I am trying to make. Either choice would give me a total of 24 weeks on for cycle for the year.

The ultimate goal would be be to bulk as much as possible this year. Would be nice to not have tons of water retention too though. So I am not sure which is better.

well dude my bet goes for the shorter cycles but get blood work done so you know how much of an impact you're body's taking.

BB_guy wrote:

I agree with Jayman on the short cycle = faster recovery.

DJ, why do you say long esters will make you bigger than short esters ?

longer esters are usually used for a longer period of time,long ester test usually causes major water retention therefore more mass and size,the increased water can aid in boosting strength levels and with the use of a quality anabolic such as deca or equipoise can help repair the broken down tissue faster meaning better recovery time and increased muscle gain.

Jayman,sorry dude been so busy,aunt and uncle passed away last week so i have been helping the old lady make arrangements,will call u tomorrow bro..

really really sorry to hear about that bro...
hope you guys are coping...

all good champ...strong like russia...

Thanks guys. Always good to get your views! It really is great to have a forum like this!

I was just being sarcastic DJ

Eish, sorry to hear about your Aunt and Uncle.

Condolances bud.

As fo the Nandro/Test cycle.

Id mix the 2.

Week 1-14 Test Enth (300(+), twice/week)
Week 1-12 Deca (300(+), twice/week)
Week 1-5 Test Prop 200 mg EOD
Week 1-7 NPP 150 mg EOD

More or less - you get the idea?