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28 Feb 2008 07:44 #1393
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What do you guys use for your progesterone levels when on nandrolone/tren?
Starting NPP/Test/anavar this week and want to have help close-by.
Read that (fat-cat) winny binds to the receptor and will combat this to an extend. Might substitute the var for winny if i really have to but 'var works wonders for me and don't really want to change the stack; also liver not tooooo hot.
Thanks.
Starting NPP/Test/anavar this week and want to have help close-by.
Read that (fat-cat) winny binds to the receptor and will combat this to an extend. Might substitute the var for winny if i really have to but 'var works wonders for me and don't really want to change the stack; also liver not tooooo hot.
Thanks.
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28 Feb 2008 08:30 #1395
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You can use Cabaser, but before you spend money on that, give Doctari's suggestion of 600mg Vit-B6 / day a try first.
Have look at this thread: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/func,view/id,361/catid,2/
Have look at this thread: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/func,view/id,361/catid,2/
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28 Feb 2008 20:16 #1427
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If it's not working,,, take double,,,
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Bromocriptine --
Parlodel
Parlodel
If it's not working,,, take double,,,
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05 Mar 2008 20:35 #1581
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Dostinex(cabergoline)is effective for prolactin gyno IF you can afford it(I think i paid R350 for 2 0.5mg tabs)
Also remember that for progesterone based sides to occur you need estrogen present if you eliminate estrogen (Arimadex or Aromasin or Femara-should do the trick)you should be able to avoid these sides-I have always used Arimadex(0.5mg/day for 4days) the day I start Tren and have never had a problem
Also remember that for progesterone based sides to occur you need estrogen present if you eliminate estrogen (Arimadex or Aromasin or Femara-should do the trick)you should be able to avoid these sides-I have always used Arimadex(0.5mg/day for 4days) the day I start Tren and have never had a problem
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05 Mar 2008 22:04 #1589
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Supplement with Vit B6 - it does help. If you are very sensitive individual, then use:
- Arimidex 0,5mg pd + Parlodel 2,5mg pd + Clomid 50mg pd.
- Dostinex 0,5 mg twice a week should do the trick
- Aromasin will block EVERYTHING
- or, just steer away from cycles having progesteronic components....
- Arimidex 0,5mg pd + Parlodel 2,5mg pd + Clomid 50mg pd.
- Dostinex 0,5 mg twice a week should do the trick
- Aromasin will block EVERYTHING
- or, just steer away from cycles having progesteronic components....
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05 Mar 2008 22:18 #1590
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BTW, just thought of it. Tren does not easily aromatize - so, in general, AT MODERATE DOSES, it should not have that a progesteronic effect. but, AT HIGH DOSES, IT DOES START TO GIVE progesteronic side effects.
Remember, all 19-nortestosterone derivatives has to some degree progesteronic effects. It just depends on how easily the component aromatizes. These derivatives all attach to progesterone receptors and this is how they have a growth effect, by some unknown way they increase HGH secretion.
The progesterone only starts playing a role in gynae, the moment the compound aromatizes to estrogen or when the testosterone dosage stacked with it starts to aromatize - then this leads to havoc. This is why Nolva with 19-norteststerone derivatives in general don't go well as a combination, but Parlodel or Dostinex does.
Remember, all 19-nortestosterone derivatives has to some degree progesteronic effects. It just depends on how easily the component aromatizes. These derivatives all attach to progesterone receptors and this is how they have a growth effect, by some unknown way they increase HGH secretion.
The progesterone only starts playing a role in gynae, the moment the compound aromatizes to estrogen or when the testosterone dosage stacked with it starts to aromatize - then this leads to havoc. This is why Nolva with 19-norteststerone derivatives in general don't go well as a combination, but Parlodel or Dostinex does.
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