Looking to Gain strength fast

emile6
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06 Oct 2022 21:11 #228488 by emile6

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Hi I'm looking to take an oral for quick strength gains and maybe add a bit of size. Don't really want to take anything that will raise cholesterol like crazy or too much water retention. So not really looking for dbol or tbol.

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Empire
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06 Oct 2022 21:34 #228489 by Empire

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Anavar

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Obelix
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07 Oct 2022 09:28 #228490 by Obelix

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Arent we all just looking for that

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emile6
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07 Oct 2022 17:49 #228492 by emile6

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Tried Anavar and experienced severe heat cramps. My body constantly felt hot and upper and lower back cramps all day. Also I didn't manage to pick up any strength after 6 weeks 40mgs a day. Saw another post about Winston and was wondering about that?

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Empire
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07 Oct 2022 18:32 #228493 by Empire

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What brand? That is strange experiences..

And winstrol will give you a small boost in strength, tbol would your best bet but you ruled that out from the start.

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MPhilosopher
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07 Oct 2022 18:36 #228494 by MPhilosopher

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So powerlifting?
Do you care how you look, explain the balance you want.

Also, stats, current lifts etc, end goal?

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Gerald
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09 Oct 2022 20:32 #228500 by Gerald

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I did experience the heat. Just not cramps. Constantly sweating on upper back and forehead. And I started the var when it was in winter.

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emile6
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10 Oct 2022 15:33 #228502 by emile6

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Not powerlifting just want my strength back. I was out for 2 months(no injuries) and I seem to have lost all my strength by a big amount and I can't get it back. Bench went from 120kgs 4 reps to struggling to 1 rep 80kgs
Squats from 180kgs 1 rep max is now 100kgs. Deadlift isn't too bad 220kgs now at 180kgs. Not looking to blow those numbers up just looking to regain.

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emile6
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10 Oct 2022 15:35 #228503 by emile6

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I've tried the lp var and tbol. Var and Masteron seem to give me heat cramps. My gf used lp var and was fine. Seems to be my body and not having enough electrolytes.

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Empire
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10 Oct 2022 19:09 #228504 by Empire

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If you've been out for 2 months, those numbers should come up fast. How ever if you are trying to get bigger and going for size vs doing powerlifting, I wouldn't do anything less than 8 reps.

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emile6
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11 Oct 2022 20:05 #228512 by emile6

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So would you recommend tbol for strength?

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Empire
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11 Oct 2022 20:26 #228513 by Empire

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Without a doubt yes tbol for strength.

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emile6
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11 Oct 2022 20:43 #228514 by emile6

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And would I give me any size gains? I've taken tbol before but with test and tren so couldn't really tell. And how much should I take?

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Empire
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11 Oct 2022 21:18 #228515 by Empire

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What are your current stats, what is your current cycle, all of those things are vital to working out dosages on a MG per kg level..

Yes there will be size but that is more so diet relates and other compounds used.

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emile6
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11 Oct 2022 21:26 #228516 by emile6

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82kgs
15% bf
On 100mgs test e a week
Will up it to 250mgs
Diet is currently 150g protein
2600 carbs a day

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Empire
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11 Oct 2022 21:48 #228517 by Empire

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2600 carbs or calories?

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emile6
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11 Oct 2022 22:20 #228518 by emile6

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Calories sorry

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Empire
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12 Oct 2022 06:42 #228521 by Empire

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Ok so looking at this, you are on a medical trt dose. Going up to 3mg per kg of test will do amazing things and to be honest I would add in 200mg of masteron e over an oral. I would then taper up calories over a period of time. Using an oral at this stage is going to kill hunger and make eating harder. At 15% body fat I would opt for a dht like masteron or primo for growth so there is no massive excess water retention.

Once you get 4 weeks up the the masteron to 300mg and then 4 weeks later to 400mg. That will top you out at 650mg ( 8mg per kg) and if you can't grow on that there is a problem. Run that out for 16 weeks and you will grow. You will be able to eat large amounts of food which you are going to Need to push to 3000-3500 calories eventually hoping bodyfat stays in check.

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emile6
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12 Oct 2022 13:38 #228523 by emile6

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And what about the strength issue?

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Empire
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12 Oct 2022 14:10 #228524 by Empire

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Strength comes from having muscles that recover fast, and grow. So strength comes with training And growing more muscle via increased recovery. And yes, masteron and increased amount of anabolics will increase strength. Some compounds faster than others eg anadrol vs winstrol. But you are worried about water retention etc so that rules certain compounds out such as a anadrol. If you have been out for 2 months, the strength should return in 2 months .

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Empire
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12 Oct 2022 14:20 #228525 by Empire

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also there is a question i need to ask about the strength, are you wanting to increase strength numbers in the 1-3 rep range powerlifting style as strength is the goal or are you wanting to be strong in the bodybuilder getting big rep ranges 8-20 rep ranges ? cos if you are wanting size you actually want to be pretty weak and get the most out of low weights for massive size. As the more weight you add and in higher hypertrophy rep ranges, the closer you walk to injury. If i could be massive using the lowest weight or heaviest weight possible, i would aim for the lowest weight possible.

remember with fast increases in strength comes the higher risk of injury. Tendons and ligaments don't get the blood flow that muscles do, and if you don't program your lifting correctly, you will get injured quickly too.

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Empire
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12 Oct 2022 14:26 #228526 by Empire

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Remember you can run fast or you can run far, but you won't be able to run fast very far. Apply that logic to your programming, your steroid courses and your nutrition.

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emile6
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12 Oct 2022 14:54 #228527 by emile6

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Okay thanks

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