Rad140 and MK677 8 week cycle

Hi Gents
A buddy and I are about to do the following SARM cycle. Goal is increasing lean mass and keeping it after the cycle. The gear is already purchased so even though a test/anavar/turinabol etc might be favoured, we WANT to try these SARMS.

57 days (8 weeks) on 20mg on RAD 140
10mg in the morning and 10mg before training

Then PCT of 15 days Chlomid and 30 days Tamoxifen (PCT1) with Essentialle liver supp

We will also be doing MK677 from the start of the above cycle:
87 days (12 weeks) on 15mg before bed, 5 days on, 2 days off
And possibly longer.

Diet is on point. +400 calories over maintenance daily. Probably around 3000 ish

Stats:
32-year-old male
72kg and 7-9 % bodyfat (this is a guestimate but I have done calipers enough to know what 7-9% looks like on me)
1.7m tall
Mainly mesomorphic and leaning ecto side.

30-year-old male
87kg and 12-15% bf (also his guess with xp)
1.85m tall
Balanced body type, slightly higher meso.
Vegan

My questions:
If RAD has a half life of 20 hours, why is it recommended around this forum to go 10mg split? What if I train at say 9 am in the morning? What if my training time varies every day when I get a gap to train? Just wondering if its not more beneficial to do 20mg in the mornings instead of splitting?

If MK makes us produce Growth Hormone (and from what I understand, for Growth to really make any difference needs to be taken for MONTHS), should I consider doing the MK for a longer period than 4 months?
MK with regards to insulin: From what I understand, just stay away from processed sugar or anything that could cause an insulin spike. However I am not really fully grasping what it is I am watching out for with this issue?

Can anyone confirm that they THEMSELVES have experienced vision issues on RAD140 (LP products)? What vision issues? Did you carry on the RAD? Did the vision sides stop? I am just trying to clear this up because its not clear if this is an S4 side or a RAD side.

Thanks in advance guys. This is definitely the BEST place for this info on the net.

Hi bud.

RAD has a 16hour half life not 20. That is why split dose is better.

No vision issues on RAD ever I have ran multiple RAD Cycles on LP stand alone and in bridges.

Vision isues is a S4 only side effect and only some users are affected not all.

On your insulin question.

You need to do MK a minimum of three months but some benefits become apparant before that like, deeper more restfull sleep or more vivid dreams, fuller muscles and strength increase.

Remember this is your body's own natural GH rthat is nreased you are not injecting exogenous HGH. And MK 677 causes multiple spkies/releases of HGH over 24hours to the order of 12 over 24hours due to its long half life so you need not concens yourself with carb timing. But in our sport I would always advise staying away from processed sugar except when you are about to step on stage snd need to pump up.

Thanks for the advice there RB.

Obviously I want to get maximum benefit out of my stuff so I'm curious on the following:

If RAD half life is 16 hours and I take my 1st 10mg when I wake (5:30), and I generally train at 11:00, should I take second dose (another 10mg) just before training and have higher amounts for the workout? Or rather later in the day to keep it in my system through the night?

So you train 11:00 in the morning?

If that is the case then my 11:00 am you should still have plenty of the 1st 10mg in your blood so just take the other 10mg at 17:00

Much Appreciated RB.
I will document my cycle as much as possible to give back to the forum.
Chat in a few months!

How did this go?

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Exceptionally well. Reading through the table below it is more a day to day opinion of my perspective and not so much results. So results wise, in my opinion it was the best cycle I have ever done (Comparing to a against BASIC test cycle only). Max weight achieved of 78 kg. Gain of 6kg and got my fat percent to about 6%. Not around the dirty weekend though ha ha. After the draining feeling subsided, weights were fun and I did not feel tired during a crossfit sesh. It was like that way into the PCT. I wouldn't recommend eating as many calories as you want but rather stay strict. I only did this as I know my body. I feel any bloat I experienced was completely related to diet and NOT to the SARMS. I chowed those jelly beans.

Date RAD 140 MK677
13/09/2019 20 15
14/09/2019 20 15 Woke up shaking. Felt like a serious sugar low. Ate breakfast and was fine. SMASHED workout. Placebo
15/09/2019 20 15 Battling to eat so much food (2800ish calories)
16/09/2019 20 15 Still waiting for this super deep sleep everyone's talking about…
17/09/2019 20 15 Didn’t train and forgot to take second RAD dose until 20:00
18/09/2019 20 Arms definitely look fuller. Lifted very heavy deadlifts. Felt much easier. Likely placebo
19/09/2019 20
20/09/2019 20 15 Woke up FLAT again. Not as bad though this time. Took 'before pics'. Had a coffee before training (10am)- Felt unstoppable! (I hardly drink coffee) Took second dose of RAD in evening.
21/09/2019 20 15
22/09/2019 20 15 Changed my RAD split doses to 9am and 9pm. I train at 11 in the day.
23/09/2019 20 15 Eating my calories is no problem. Got on the scale- up 2kgs (starting weight was 72kg)
24/09/2019 20 15 Still up those 2 kgs. Took more pics to compare to 'befores' to see if there is noticable water retention- Not really noticable.
25/09/2019 20 Deadlifted 170kg- Old one max rep was 160kg few months ago. Whole dead lift sesh felt relatively easy. Only have 5kgs left in the gym!
26/09/2019 20 I sleep like a dead man
27/09/2019 20 15
28/09/2019 20 15 VIVID Dreams. I had 800ish calorie oats/protien/chai seeds shake before bed. Still woke up flat on the start of the week MK dose. After next 'off MK' days I'm going to rather take in the morning. I feel like my body is running flat and not getting full benefit.
29/09/2019 20 15
30/09/2019 20 15 Brushing my teeth this morning- stomach looks like a whole bunch of fish stranded and fluttering on a pebble beach. even when 'not trying'. Im generally lean but this is another level.
01/10/2019 20 15 My buddy noted he is pooping 3 x as much. I concur!
02/10/2019 20
03/10/2019 20 I feel like I look really really lean. Im not 'large' like on previous test based basic cycles. Im way more lean. My intercostulars show for nothing. Im going to put my genes to the test and just CHOW for now. No calorie limit with minimal bad calories.
04/10/2019 20 15
05/10/2019 20 15 Dead lifted 175kg
06/10/2019 20 15
07/10/2019 20 15 Taking the MK in the morning was a mistake. I feel flat every through every morning. Really tough to 'get going'.
08/10/2019 20 15 Scale says 76kg
09/10/2019 20
10/10/2019 20
11/10/2019 20 15
12/10/2019 10 15 Forgot to take
13/10/2019 20 15 Balls still feel same size
14/10/2019 20 15 Scale says 75kg- going to eat more.
15/10/2019 20 15 Took more progress pictures. I can see my six pack even when relaxed
16/10/2019 20
17/10/2019 20
18/10/2019 20 15 Not 'feeling' any sides at all
19/10/2019 20 15
20/10/2019 20 15
21/10/2019 20 15 I get serious pumps during training. Also very very vascular. Especially arms
22/10/2019 20 15
23/10/2019 20
24/10/2019 20
25/10/2019 20 15
26/10/2019 20 15
27/10/2019 20 15 Balls still look and feel same size
28/10/2019 20 15
29/10/2019 20 15
30/10/2019 10 Forgot to take in the eve
31/10/2019 20 Stopping the MK until Sunday eve so that i can be off it on the weekends
01/11/2019 20
02/11/2019 20
03/11/2019 20 15
04/11/2019 20 15 Ate badly over the weekend. Bloated out like a balloon!
05/11/2019 20 15
06/11/2019 20 15
07/11/2019 20 15
08/11/2019 20

DATE MK677 CHLOMID TAMOXIFEN
09/11/2019 50 All the steroids in the world couldn’t help me get the cap off that Chlomid
10/11/2019 15 50
11/11/2019 15 50
12/11/2019 15 50
13/11/2019 15 50
14/11/2019 15 50
15/11/2019 50
16/11/2019 50
17/11/2019 15 50
18/11/2019 15 50
19/11/2019 15 50
20/11/2019 15 50
21/11/2019 15 50
22/11/2019 50
23/11/2019 50
24/11/2019 15 20
25/11/2019 15 20
26/11/2019 15 20
27/11/2019 15 20
28/11/2019 15 20
29/11/2019 20 A friend took a pic of me after a workout and I look absolutely MASSIVE. Veins popping muscles bulging. I look exactly like gym buffs WANT to look.
30/11/2019 20
01/12/2019 15 20
02/12/2019 15 20
03/12/2019 15 20
04/12/2019 20
05/12/2019 20
06/12/2019 20
07/12/2019 20
08/12/2019 20
09/12/2019 20
10/12/2019 20
11/12/2019 20 Still look and feel great. Haven't stepped on a scale but I look the same in the mirror. No more bloat. I think just a blip in the diet earlier.