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Masteron vs Primo with Test Base
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I'm planning my next cycle which will probably happen in the next 3 months or so.
Last time I did Test/Deca with oral tren. Hectic cycle, good results, but I don't want to go so hard again.
I was thinking, test base with either primo or masteron for 16 weeks.
What do you recommend? What are your experiences? Also your thoughts on oral primo vs inject-able.
It is to my understanding that Primo isn't a very powerful anabolic, but I don't want to just do test alone.
Was thinking something like;
Test C/E - Week 1-16
Primo/Mast - Week 1-14
20mg Asin E3.5D
PCT
Clomid @ 50mg x 14 days
Nolvadex @ 20mg x 28 days
But if you think either would be a poor choice, I can persuaded to try another compound, i.e EQ etc.
I still consider myself a noob,even though this would be my 4th cycle in 3 years. I still want to see and learn how my body reacts to certain compounds and what works best for me.
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Then planned on a simple 16 weeks of Test E and EQ/Primo. I think budget may be the only limitation when running EQ/Primo since they both need a relatively high dose for a long period of time.
I have always personally seen Mast as a nice to have addition to a stack.
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Masteron is mostly cosmetic. It show off your hard work when you're very lean. It does VERY LITTLE for strength and lean mass gain. If you're already at 11/12% body fat you will see benefits, but it really shines when you're under 10% (ie. defined 6 pack without a pump).
Primo is also not ideal if you're not very lean. It's high price is to get consistant (slow) gains while looking ripped and hard. It takes a while to build decent lean muscle but you stay very dry and it hardens you up but not as much as masteron.
Go with EQ. Everybody should try EQ in their first 3 or 4 cycles. 500mg to 700mg/week. Takes 7-8 weeks to notice the full effect NB. It doesn't always agree with guys who have high anxiety though. Bang for buck If you want more lean gains EQ > Primo. Less gains but harder look then primo 400mg
I say Test + EQ 16 weeks and add Masteron prop the last 8 weeks if you are 10-11% bf and not eating to gain any more mass.
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Muscleaddict wrote: Go with EQ. Everybody should try EQ in their first 3 or 4 cycles. 500mg to 700mg/week. Takes 7-8 weeks to notice the full effect NB. It doesn't always agree with guys who have high anxiety though. Bang for buck If you want more lean gains EQ > Primo. Less gains but harder look then primo 400mg
I say Test + EQ 16 weeks and add Masteron prop the last 8 weeks if you are 10-11% bf and not eating to gain any more mass.
Awesome, I'll try that then. Always appreciate the knowledge ya'll give here.
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DruOmedra wrote:
Muscleaddict wrote: Go with EQ. Everybody should try EQ in their first 3 or 4 cycles. 500mg to 700mg/week. Takes 7-8 weeks to notice the full effect NB. It doesn't always agree with guys who have high anxiety though. Bang for buck If you want more lean gains EQ > Primo. Less gains but harder look then primo 400mg
I say Test + EQ 16 weeks and add Masteron prop the last 8 weeks if you are 10-11% bf and not eating to gain any more mass.
Awesome, I'll try that then. Always appreciate the knowledge ya'll give here.
You can add winstrol in as well with the masteron for more fullness which will give insane vascularity when you're pumped. If you have joint issues you can run a low dose 20-30mg and still see a big difference.
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Muscleaddict wrote: This obviously is not a cycle for gaining huge mass.
Masteron is mostly cosmetic. It show off your hard work when you're very lean. It does VERY LITTLE for strength and lean mass gain. If you're already at 11/12% body fat you will see benefits, but it really shines when you're under 10% (ie. defined 6 pack without a pump).
Primo is also not ideal if you're not very lean. It's high price is to get consistant (slow) gains while looking ripped and hard. It takes a while to build decent lean muscle but you stay very dry and it hardens you up but not as much as masteron.
Go with EQ. Everybody should try EQ in their first 3 or 4 cycles. 500mg to 700mg/week. Takes 7-8 weeks to notice the full effect NB. It doesn't always agree with guys who have high anxiety though. Bang for buck If you want more lean gains EQ > Primo. Less gains but harder look then primo 400mg
I say Test + EQ 16 weeks and add Masteron prop the last 8 weeks if you are 10-11% bf and not eating to gain any more mass.
100% 2nd this post
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You gave me a plan for my next cycle thanks MA.
I just can not run EQ for more than 400mg a week or for too long. My blood gets very scary thick and that raises my blood pressure very bad
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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: That sounds like a very good cycle.
You gave me a plan for my next cycle thanks MA.
I just can not run EQ for more than 400mg a week or for too long. My blood gets very scary thick and that raises my blood pressure very bad
Drink n disprin ED, en as jy moet n lekker dop !
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Oupa wrote:
Rooi Bul 86 wrote: That sounds like a very good cycle.
You gave me a plan for my next cycle thanks MA.
I just can not run EQ for more than 400mg a week or for too long. My blood gets very scary thick and that raises my blood pressure very bad
Drink n disprin ED, en as jy moet n lekker dop !
Yup, my cardiologist prescribes me low dose asprin when I use EQ. Here is some good information. www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/h...therapy/art-20046797
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Charlestulky wrote: just go to the same place you got your last blood test done and pay for one. They send the results directly to you and then you can discuss them with your doctorÂ
Or discuss it here, we have huge experience on these forums.
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