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First time tren for Strength
- Jubb
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Okay some basic info about me:
Age: 30
Weight: 85kg
BF: 10% (wild guess)
Have ran 2 cycles before:
1: 325mg sust per week for 10 weeks
2: 450mg sust per week for 10 weeks with 25mg ED of winny for 6 weeks.
Goal:
I am a powerlifter and am looking to gain some strength mostly. Some gain in weight is okay as I still have some room in my weight class. I have plenty of theoretical knowledge on PED’s, and has been drawn to Trenbolone Acetate as it is most commonly recommended for strength. I just want to run a short cycle with Trenbolone acetate to see how I respond. If all goes well I’ll run a longer Tren-E cycle later.
So here is what I have planned so far.
Test-E: week 1-10 300mg per week
Anavar: week 1-4 40mg ED kick start
Tren-Ace: week 6-10 200mg per week
Test-Prop: week 11-14 250mg per week
HCG: 250 IU twice a week whole cycle.
So is there anything anyone recommend I change?
I will have SERM on-hand if needed but have not had any issues before.
Also not too sure about PCT. Can I just run sample 1 as soon as the test-prop have worked out since I shouldn’t be to shut down due to HCG use, or should I go with No2?
I have heard keeping carbs in-check and taking vitamin B6 helps with tren sides, any other sage advice to reduce side effects?
Only real side effects I have gotten before from test is mild acne, nothing one can see if I have a shirt on and rather controllable.
(Training is on point and diet is also in check nearly all the time.)
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- SamZ4000
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You got 2 cycles under your belt. And you want to try tren?
Your 1st 2 cycles can be classed as beginner cycles. I would recommend you do a few more cycles add in deca. And play around with deca before you hop on to tren.
On your cycle.
Test prop nd tren ace woud be fine for 8weeks. Your tren dose is high for a first time user. Beware.
/\ pct 3. Nd have caber on hand.
On sides. There isn’t much u can do. You have to bare with the crap tren brings to the table.
Add in Cardarine into your cycle can help.
Test nd eq cycle would be something u cn look at.
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Jubb wrote: I just want to run a short cycle with Trenbolone acetate to see how I respond. If all goes well I’ll run a longer Tren-E cycle later.
If only it worked this easy... tren E and tren A... two totally different physiological drugs
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Wayne wrote: What I got done on 3 weeks of tren took me 10 weeks on test..however...diff ppl react differently and the biggest concern is the mental aspect, I had anger, depression, felt like death, wanted to die...turned to popping Valium's to try n keep my shit together.
This is no joke. If you have any major stress in your life avoid tren or use a low dose. If you are in a relationship and are quite a moody or aggressive guy, your relationship will suffer - avoid it.
Tren A should be used every day, not EOD. The difference in side effects and mood swings is very noticeable.
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Oupa wrote:
Jubb wrote: I just want to run a short cycle with Trenbolone acetate to see how I respond. If all goes well I’ll run a longer Tren-E cycle later.
If only it worked this easy... tren E and tren A... two totally different physiological drugs
How do you find them different?
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Think the "Primobolan, Testocyp, Turinabol & Proviron (Intermediate lean mass and strength cycle)" just replacing the Primo with 525mg per week of EQ, as that much primo is a bit out of my budget.
But when I do eventually run tren what is a good starting dose? Sam you say 200 a week is a bit much.
Maybe 20mg ED then work up from there?
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Muscleaddict wrote: This is no joke. If you have any major stress in your life avoid tren or use a low dose. If you are in a relationship and are quite a moody or aggressive guy, your relationship will suffer - avoid it.
Tren A should be used every day, not EOD. The difference in side effects and mood swings is very noticeable.
Jip, tren and a relationship = a shit storm. Tren while single = the time of your life. You can be how mentally stable but once life throws you a curve ball you loose your shit.
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- SamZ4000
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i would say so. 20mg ed then work your way up. Other guys can share they opinionsJubb wrote: Thanks for the feedback guys, not deadset on tren, yet, so I'll run a decent intermediate cycle first.
Think the "Primobolan, Testocyp, Turinabol & Proviron (Intermediate lean mass and strength cycle)" just replacing the Primo with 525mg per week of EQ, as that much primo is a bit out of my budget.
But when I do eventually run tren what is a good starting dose? Sam you say 200 a week is a bit much.
Maybe 20mg ED then work up from there?
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