Oxandrolone test-c 5-3-4

Cycle thoughts...
Purpose: gains from var and test to maintain. Split var to rest liver

Wk 1-2 : var 50mg/ed, test-c 100mg
Wk 3-5: var 60mg/ed, test-c 200mg
Wk 6-8: No var, test-c 300mg
Wk 9-10: var 50mg/ed, test-c 200mg
Wk 11-12: var 60mg/ed, test-c 100mg
Pct

(Will do the test bi-weekly to reduce estrogen)

Do I need an AI during the cycle?
Is this a good cycle for a first time?

Hi
A few more stats, age, weight, training experience etc, would be good.

I'm not sure if you have a reason for pyramiding the dose but it's going to mess with your system structured this way. Your Test dose is very low, at 100, you are at the basic testosterone replacement dose. To put it in perspective I'm 44 and I use 200mg test/week as TRT and I am still just within the Ampath upper limit range. I also think your overall dose is too low so it'll be a waste.

By changing the dosage up and down your are riding a roller coaster and risking sides. In week 11 and 12 your estrogen would have increased from some level of aromatization and you are reducing your test dose, it's asking for trouble.

What are you going to use for the 4 weeks odd that you are off everything and bridge into PCT? If you have no exogenous testosterone then, and your natural supply is shut down, which is likely to some degree, then it's going to be a horrible time.

My suggestion would be
Week 1- 12 - Test C - minimum 250 but great at 375mg/week (this is still low but conservative).
Week 1-5 - Var 60mg/day
Week 12-16 - Var 60mg/day (if you really want to use it again and choose not to go for Hcg)
Week 17 clomid
Week 18 for 30 days Nolvadex.

I would personally use Hcg from week 6 - 16 at 250 iu twice per week. It's a fairly low dose but your cycle isn't highly suppressive.
You can keep an AI on hand but it's not likely to be necessary. I'd go and look at some of the sample cycles available on this site as well.

Just my 2 cents, good luck.

Mfezdro wrote: Hi
A few more stats, age, weight, training experience etc, would be good.

I'm not sure if you have a reason for pyramiding the dose but it's going to mess with your system structured this way. Your Test dose is very low, at 100, you are at the basic testosterone replacement dose. To put it in perspective I'm 44 and I use 200mg test/week as TRT and I am still just within the Ampath upper limit range. I also think your overall dose is too low so it'll be a waste.

By changing the dosage up and down your are riding a roller coaster and risking sides. In week 11 and 12 your estrogen would have increased from some level of aromatization and you are reducing your test dose, it's asking for trouble.

What are you going to use for the 4 weeks odd that you are off everything and bridge into PCT? If you have no exogenous testosterone then, and your natural supply is shut down, which is likely to some degree, then it's going to be a horrible time.

My suggestion would be
Week 1- 12 - Test C - minimum 250 but great at 375mg/week (this is still low but conservative).
Week 1-5 - Var 60mg/day
Week 12-16 - Var 60mg/day (if you really want to use it again and choose not to go for Hcg)
Week 17 clomid
Week 18 for 30 days Nolvadex.

I would personally use Hcg from week 6 - 16 at 250 iu twice per week. It's a fairly low dose but your cycle isn't highly suppressive.
You can keep an AI on hand but it's not likely to be necessary. I'd go and look at some of the sample cycles available on this site as well.

Just my 2 cents, good luck.

I would suggest running proviron at 60mg ed along with the Var at week 12-16 to utilize the free circulating test with the combo you advised.

I am running test at 300 and just finished 6 weeks of oxan. I put on 8kg of lean muscle. I am now on week 9 and next week will start a low dosage of tbol for the next 6 weeks. Going to give these SARMS a try as well. Why do you recommend hcg?

8kg lean in 6 weeks. Those are good stats, but you will lose most during PCT and after. So don't get discouraged. This is a journey, not a quick trip.

Rogerg88 wrote: I am running test at 300 and just finished 6 weeks of oxan. I put on 8kg of lean muscle. I am now on week 9 and next week will start a low dosage of tbol for the next 6 weeks. Going to give these SARMS a try as well. Why do you recommend hcg?

I wouldn't complicate and use too much in your first cycle. Ease your body into it.

hCG stimulates the testes to produce test and keeos them active. By using exogenous Test at high levels, you've effectively negated your body's need to produce it's own. So via a negative feedback mechanism on the HPTA your "balls have shut down" and gone on holiday. hCG keeps them at work on short time so when you go off exogenous test they can take up producing naturak Test again. That is why you do a PCT. hCG just makes it the process smoother and a little less harsh.

Thank you for the info regarding hcg. I start rugby next week and I am worried about loosing strength during the preseason conditioning. I have decided to run a small tbol dose during the bridge to pct. I switched to see if it would be better for back pumps. I tried taurine and it only helped some. I also decided to try MK2866 during the bridge and pct. After I finished the pct I was going to run rad140?