52 Year old Recreational Builder Cycle + Diet

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14 Apr 2016 13:30 #198022 by NorthBoy
Good day Gents and Ladies,

Please add, subtract or criticize my 7th cycle over 7 year period.(Lean Bulk)

Train at 05h00 e.d except Saturdays(11h00)

Cycle:Started on 4 April 2016
Anapolon LP 100mg p.d split in 2 (05h40 and 18h00) First 25 days
Sustaplex 325 - 1ml twice weekly for 15 weeks 650mg p.w(Mo + Thu night) Total 30ml
Organon Deca - 1ml twice weekly for 15 weeks 200mg p.w(Mo + Thu night) Total 30ml
PCT 2 afterwards.
Supplements and Vitamins:
Pro V Guard - 2 caps a day
Vit C - 1000mg p.d
Essentiale Extreme - 3 caps p.d
Diet:
Pre W.O - Alternate between USN B4Bomb and Scitec War Machine(Start at 05h40)
05h45 - Banana
05h00 to 06h00 - Training
06h10 - 30g Whey Protein + 30g Primal Energy(Dextrose)
07h30 - 70g Raw Oats + 25g Futurelife High Protein
10h00 - Apple + 25g Raw Almonds
12h00 - 200g Steak/Chicken Breast/Fish/Lean Mince + 100g Brocolli/Green Beans/Mixed Veg.
15h00 - 30g Whey Protein + 25g Futurelife High Protein
18h00 - 200g Steak/Chicken Breast/Fish/Lean Mince + 100g Brocolli/Green Beans/Mixed Veg.
21h00 - 30g Whey Protein + Dessertspoon Natural Peanut Butter
Consume 2 to 3 litres water per day.

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14 Apr 2016 14:04 #198023 by OPTRON
Hi NorthBoy,

With Anaps, I usually fronload only for two weeks. Longer than that, my kidneys and back starts hurting. Also I take it you meant for your Pre W.O to be at 04h40 and not 05h40 as mentioned. I would also look to add HCG during cycle and also add a bridge before PCT.

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14 Apr 2016 14:17 - 14 Apr 2016 14:28 #198025 by Rooi Bul 86
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Not PCT 2 after Decca mate. Take PCT 3. Revised for HCG instead of ovidrelle. Or run HCG in Cycle and follow with PCT 3 orals ie Clomid. Nolva. Aromasin.

If you really want to lean bulk up the Decca dosage bud. And don't guess calorie work out your maintenance calories for your age, height, weight and body fat and activity. If you want to bulk eat above that. Post up your stats Bud. If we can se your weight we can better suggest dosages.

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14 Apr 2016 14:26 - 14 Apr 2016 14:33 #198028 by NorthBoy
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Optron:
Thank you, yes Pre WO should be 04h40.
I will limit the Anaps to two weeks.
Where and how much HCG would you suggest I add?
What would you suggest for a bridge as I've never done one? Maybe Winstrol?
RooiBul:
Thank you, I will change to PCT 3

My stats:
Age - 52
Weight - 86kg
BF - 20% (Guestimate)
Height - 1.74m
Activity - Moderate to High (Full body WO, Mo to Sat)

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14 Apr 2016 14:56 #198029 by Oupa
Hey North

Why deca? It can cause heart issues in older men my friend.

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14 Apr 2016 15:00 - 14 Apr 2016 15:05 #198030 by Rooi Bul 86
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Post up pics then some guys that are good St it can give you an estimate if you are up for it.

I get your maintenance Calories at 2771 but I did not use a formula that includes body fat as we do not know where you are at.

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14 Apr 2016 15:26 #198038 by NorthBoy
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Hi Oupa, It was the obvious choice and I have already started the cycle. I am aware of Deca's sides but did not know of the cardiac issue.

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14 Apr 2016 17:04 - 14 Apr 2016 17:06 #198050 by Oupa
Just keep your DECA dosages sane (as is) and the deca cycle length no more than 12 weeks. Anaps for 2 weeks is a waist my bud, 4 weeks min, you can push for 5 weeks if your health holds up.

HCG 1000iu per week from the start and don't forget your cabaser.

The rest looks good, and your anyway no fool when it comes to this.

How about some proviron & Winstrol for a bridge?
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15 Apr 2016 07:56 - 15 Apr 2016 07:58 #198089 by NorthBoy
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Oupa wrote: Just keep your DECA dosages sane (as is) and the deca cycle length no more than 12 weeks. Anaps for 2 weeks is a waist my bud, 4 weeks min, you can push for 5 weeks if your health holds up.
I will keep Deca at 100mg twice weekly and only for 12 weeks. Anaps I will run for 25 days as I only bought 50 caps.

HCG 1000iu per week from the start and don't forget your cabaser.
I'm nearly at the end of week 2 but starting week 3 I will pin HCG twice weekly at 500iu. Will have to get Cabaser.....(Dosage?)

The rest looks good, and your anyway no fool when it comes to this. Thank you, at our age you cannot F around with your health.

How about some proviron & Winstrol for a bridge?

Sounds good. Could you please help with dosage as I've never done a bridge ?

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15 Apr 2016 10:35 #198092 by Oupa
Start around week 12 so that you have 6 weeks to bridge before PCT starts.

Winstrol @ 50mg ED or Anavar @ 80mg ED
Proviron @ 40mg-60mg ED
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15 Apr 2016 10:58 #198095 by NorthBoy
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Oupa wrote: Start around week 12 so that you have 6 weeks to bridge before PCT starts.

Winstrol @ 50mg ED or Anavar @ 80mg ED
Proviron @ 40mg-60mg ED


Oupa, I have Sustaplex for 15 weeks. Should I finish it or stop with the Deca after week 12 ?

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15 Apr 2016 11:23 #198096 by Oupa
Leave the sust going 15 weeks and cut the deca @ 12 weeks.
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15 Apr 2016 11:31 #198097 by NorthBoy
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Oupa wrote: Leave the sust going 15 weeks and cut the deca @ 12 weeks.


Sorry for all the questions, but just one last thing.....Do I then start Winstrol + Proviron after week 12 or after stopping Sust at week 15, beginning week 16 ?

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15 Apr 2016 11:42 #198098 by Oupa
Yes start the Winnies & Proviron once you stopped the deca and run it right up to 2 days before your pct starts.
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15 Apr 2016 12:00 #198100 by NorthBoy
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Oupa wrote: Yes start the Winnies & Proviron once you stopped the deca and run it right up to 2 days before your pct starts.


Thanks Oupa, how much and where do I fit in the Cabaser ?

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15 Apr 2016 12:14 #198101 by Oupa
From week 4 @ 0.5mg E5D.
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