ANAVAR AND WINSTROL COMBO

Hi everyone

I am torn in 2

One half of the community says: "stupid combo
The other half says: works like a charm

Can any of you guys motivate why on each stance

And what would you suggest for a weightloss cycle

I can say 2 things after my first week of use

WEEK 1

1ML of test Cyp 200 every 5 days
1ML of Winstrol 50 every 5 days
30 to 40 Anavar p/d
Starting weight 90.8kg
Bathroom breaks from once a day to 5 to 6 a day
A little more strength at the gym before 80kg 5 reps to 100kg 5 reps
Joint pain on right ankle (not sure why)

And please guys no heckling, second post advise welcome, information a must, I'm new to this, was out of any physical activity for 2 years and I got tired of waiting for my body to heal, started gyming December, and haven't look back

Trying to shed the fat and going for an athletic build

Do you know what is the half life of a steroid like Winstrol for example?

You say you inject Winstrol 1ml assuming 50mg every 5th day?

Did you know that Winstrols half life is around 24 hours (injectable) and oral around 8 hours?

So lets calculate......

50mg of Winstrol day 1 = 50mg
After 24 hours you will have only 25mg winstol in your blood, what happens 24 hours after that?

By the 5th day the process starts all over again and you have no active STABLE steroid except for the test in your bloodstream.

Rethink your cycle bro

So more frequent injections, how frequently and what doses.

Injectable 50mg EOD
Oral 50mg ED split in 8 hour equal dosages.

Okey cool that is helpful will have to stock up on some more thank you

Is there any other product, and don't tell look there, you can recommend, as you can see I have a way to go till I loose the weight

All you need is a proper diet & training program.

Hi Sparky.

Please read the Steroidcyle basics article. Look for it on the right on the page. Also read the PCT article all of this will make your life and cycle easier. And give you a better understanding.

Educate yourself bud.
Not being rude or snotty now.

Reply me with some knowledge you gained yourself and I will help and guide

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Hi Sparky.

Please read the Steroidcyle basics article. Look for it on the right on the page. Also read the PCT article all of this will make your life and cycle easier. And give you a better understanding.

Educate yourself bud.
Not being rude or snotty now.

Reply me with some knowledge you gained yourself and I will help and guide

Has anyone heard of QDR, thanks bud will do, some of the info there is outdated, and in contradiction to other major sites, I don't know what to believe, discrepancies on dosage, what works what don't, injection methods, PCT.

Example: everyone here says injection size should be 1 inch 21 to 23 gauge, other site says insulin needle works which is 27 gauge 1/2 inch

Sparkypta wrote:

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Hi Sparky.

Please read the Steroidcyle basics article. Look for it on the right on the page. Also read the PCT article all of this will make your life and cycle easier. And give you a better understanding.

Educate yourself bud.
Not being rude or snotty now.

Reply me with some knowledge you gained yourself and I will help and guide

Has anyone heard of QDR, thanks bud will do, some of the info there is outdated, and in contradiction to other major sites, I don't know what to believe, discrepancies on dosage, what works what don't, injection methods, PCT.

Example: everyone here says injection size should be 1 inch 21 to 23 gauge, other site says insulin needle works which is 27 gauge 1/2 inch

I have recently noticed that every site seems to have their own preferences in terms of what substances to use together and so forth.
That being said I genuinely find this site to be better than the others I have seen as a lot of the stuff is backed up by actual reasoning and scientific facts etc.

It is like each steroid forum has their own preference as to how PCT should be run - when, how, what etc.
Dosages also vary a lot and preferences towards certain substances / brands.

I personally listen to advice on this forum over what might be obtained on other forums.
As for which type of needle to use, think of it this way. If you need to inject a substance into your muscle, you need to get it past the fat (often people inject in their ass which is very fatty). Now ask yourself whether half an inch will make it nicely into your ass muscle and through all of the fat (no offense, but you are certainly not the leanest person out there). You will need something a bit longer to be on the safe side and to get it nicely into the muscle. Also often you will be injecting an oil which is thicker and to push the oil through a small needle will be extremely hard, so you opt for a larger and thicker needle.

Then think about when you inject something into your fat on your stomach, you do not want something very long or thick as you do not want to go in deeper than required and do not want to do more damage than required (I cannot imagine sticking myself with a 24G needle in my stomach). Also often subq injections are water based and go through a smaller needle a lot easier than oil.

You see, that makes lots of sense, why couldn't any of the other guys on this place help out like you do, helping a guy out on his first cycle is important, do you have any cycle tips or what I should do after this one, I need to loose weight, I cut down on carbs a lot, and do cardio lost about 10 kg already, I'm stuck with belly fat and obviously my fat percentage needs to drop

Sparkypta wrote: You see, that makes lots of sense, why couldn't any of the other guys on this place help out like you do, helping a guy out on his first cycle is important, do you have any cycle tips or what I should do after this one, I need to loose weight, I cut down on carbs a lot, and do cardio lost about 10 kg already, I'm stuck with belly fat and obviously my fat percentage needs to drop

Bud, you've been told multiple times. A cycle isn't going to help you lose fat, a proper diet and training program is what you need!

I have even mentioned this to you in your other thread.


A cycle with a high bodyfat percentage is just going to cause more issues with water retention, more estrogen, higher blood pressure etc. You will sweat more, be more tired and out of breathe and probably feel worse.



Count your calories, use the app (or website) My Fitness Pal to assist you. Ask for advice on a good training for a beginner who wants to lose weight (I am not sure what would be best, maybe something like 5x5 or ice cream fitness?). Do not cheat with your meals, be consistent with your workouts and push yourself and most importantly have a bit of patience. It does not happen over night. You do you just get big overnight when taking steroids either, it still takes many cycles and plenty of hard work.
There is no miracle drug.


I've mentioned this to you before in your previous thread

Okey will check it out,

Sparkypta wrote: You see, that makes lots of sense, why couldn't any of the other guys on this place help out like you do, helping a guy out on his first cycle is important, do you have any cycle tips or what I should do after this one, I need to loose weight, I cut down on carbs a lot, and do cardio lost about 10 kg already, I'm stuck with belly fat and obviously my fat percentage needs to drop

Mainly because you don't need help with a cycle, you need to learn how to train and diet first, which you can do with a little googling and reading before expecting us to spoon feed you. Train for 5 years and get a good base and then come back for cycle advice.

Anyway, good luck with your weight loss cycle bud.