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24 Nov 2015 15:50 #193405 by BuffTowlie
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Good day gents

I need some advise on a current cycle i want to run for cutting and to try and lean out.This is not my first cycle but it has been awhile since i have run one and didnt have great advise on my previous ones.

( 6 months since last cycle ) due to starting a new job since i got back from overseas..... ( qualified fitness director ) My diet and training are on point. Feel like a cycle is needed due to the fact that i have hit a wall when it comes to results.

My specs are as follows:

Age:28
Height:1.81 m
Weight:93
bfp:13 percent

The Cycle i want to run is below and it is purely for cutting. not worried about size as i am happy with current gains i just want to lean out. I will also be running for only 6 weeks. My PCT is already planned and acquired. will elaborate if necessary. My last cycles i did get great results and barely if no negative side effects. ( thanks to pct )


Week 1 week 2 week 3 week 4 week 5 week 6

Day 1 var=20mg var=40mg var=60mg winny=25mg winny=50mg winny=50mg
clen=20mg clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg

Day 2 var=20mg var=40mg var=60mg winny=25mg winny=50mg winny=50mg
clen=20mg clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg

Day 3 var=20mg var=40mg var=60mg winny=25mg winny=50mg winny=50mg
clen=20mg clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg

Day 4 var=40mg var=40mg var=60mg winny=50mg winny=50mg winny=50mg
clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg

Day 5 var=40mg var=40mg var=80mg winny=50mg winny=50mg winny=50mg
clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg

Day 6 var=40mg var=40mg var=80mg winny=50mg winny=50mg winny=50mg
clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg

Day 7 var=40mg var=60mg var=80mg winny=50mg winny=50mg winny=50mg
clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg clen=40mg



I do know that it should be run with testo but i do not feel ready for injectable yet.

I do know that oral only is very harsh on the liver but i will be using all of the essentials with it , such as things for my liver, kidneys , bp and cholesterol and joints. so will be taking all my omegas and my taurine and thistles and as well as everything needed for pct. ( will also be using clomid and nolva)

Please let me know if i have constructed this correctly and any other advise will be very much appreciated.

Thanks guys look forward to the response.

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24 Nov 2015 17:29 #193416 by Rooi Bul 86
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That is a difficult layout to follow and understand. Try giving your daily dosage of each compound separately. Add Proviron as an androgen as a minimum.

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24 Nov 2015 17:36 #193418 by Fakey_AK
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Um I'm sorry but :huh:

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24 Nov 2015 17:41 #193419 by Rooi Bul 86
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My thoughts exactly Fakey

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24 Nov 2015 20:01 #193429 by BuffTowlie
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sorry it wasnt typed out like that. just posted like that. will repost it now

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24 Nov 2015 20:31 #193435 by BuffTowlie
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alright i reposted the whole thing for you all with a better format.....my apologies

Really appreciate it. Please see everything below with new layout.






Good day gents

I need some advise on a current cycle i want to run for cutting and to try and lean out.This is not my first cycle but it has been awhile since i have run one and didnt have great advise on my previous ones.

( 6 months since last cycle ) due to starting a new job since i got back from overseas..... ( qualified fitness director ) My diet and training are on point. Feel like a cycle is needed due to the fact that i have hit a wall when it comes to results.

My specs are as follows:

Age:28
Height:1.81 m
Weight:93
bfp:13 percent

The Cycle i want to run is below and it is purely for cutting. not worried about size as i am happy with current gains i just want to lean out. I will also be running for only 6 weeks. My PCT is already planned and acquired. will elaborate if necessary. My last cycles i did get great results and barely if no negative side effects. ( thanks to pct )





week 1:

day1:var 20mg + clen 20mg
day2:var 20mg + clen 20mg
day3:var 20mg + clen 20mg
day4:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day5:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day6:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day7:var 40mg + clen 40mg

week 2:

day1:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day2:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day3:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day4:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day5:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day6:var 40mg + clen 40mg
day7:var 60mg + clen 40mg

week 3:

day1:var 60mg
day2:var 60mg
day3:var 60mg
day4:var 60mg
day5:var 80mg
day6:var 80mg
day7:var 80mg

week 4:

day1:winny 25mg
day2:winny 25mg
day3:winny 25mg
day4:winny 50mg
day5:winny 50mg
day6:winny 50mg
day7:winny 50mg

week 5:

day1:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day2:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day3:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day4:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day5:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day6:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day7:winny 50mg + clen 40mg

Week 6:

day1:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day2:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day3:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day4:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day5:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day6:winny 50mg + clen 40mg
day7:winny 50mg + clen 40mg

week 7-10 (pct)


I do know that it should be run with testo but i do not feel ready for injectable yet.

I do know that oral only is very harsh on the liver but i will be using all of the essentials with it , such as things for my liver, kidneys , bp and cholesterol and joints. so will be taking all my omegas and my taurine and thistles and as well as everything needed for pct. ( will also be using clomid and nolva)

Please let me know if i have constructed this correctly and any other advise will be very much appreciated.

Thanks guys look forward to the response.

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24 Nov 2015 20:52 #193442 by PsyCLown
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Only thing I am going to comment on is the clen - why not consider using it for the full 7 weeks and why not up the dose past 40mcg?

If you do plan on using it for more than 2 consecutive weeks you will need to take something like Betasleep or Zetofen though, which will upregulate your beta 2 receptors since clen downregualtes them which leads to less effectiveness over time.
Betasleep is super cheap and OTC, Zetofen is a syrup just over R100 and also OTC but not something pharmacies stock so you might need to order it from a pharmacy.
You would take 2 betasleep caps every night or 15ml of Zetofen every night.

Every 4th day increase it by 20mcg until the side effects become too much or until you reach a maximum of 120mcg. Since your main goal is to cut, I think this might work a bit better for you :)




Majority of people on this forum will probably be against an all oral cycle, keep in mind that adding testosterone will help keep you anabolic and help prevent your body from breaking down your muscles for energy as opposed to your fat ;)

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24 Nov 2015 20:57 #193443 by BuffTowlie
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Psyclown

Thanks man i shall take your advice. much appreciated. But my knowledge is that with clen its great to use two weeks on and then two weeks off. And as for the dosage, i didnt want to bump it too high. i would have increased it if the side effects wer low.

But once again shot.

Willing to take any professional advice

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24 Nov 2015 21:10 #193446 by BuffTowlie
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and as far as i understand, is that clen works as an anti catabolic and pro anabolic.

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24 Nov 2015 21:30 - 24 Nov 2015 21:32 #193453 by PsyCLown
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Woah, firstly I am not a professional. Also many members on this forum who are far more knowledgeable and have significantly more experience with this sort of stuff than I do :)

From what I have read, clen only has very slight anabolic effects in doses far greater than what you should be taking.
You can and you most likely will lose muscle when taking clen. You will want to be eating at a calorie deficit while using it.


As for dose, well, everyone will react to the side differently. One could be really struggling at 80mcg while someone else isn't really feeling it all that much at 100mcg. It isn't like alcohol where weight might help determine how well you can handle it either.

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24 Nov 2015 21:38 #193456 by Fakey_AK
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If you really dont want to inject then go Var and proviron and dont taper the aas. 60mg of each for 8 weeks with the clen.
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24 Nov 2015 21:56 - 24 Nov 2015 21:58 #193461 by Oupa
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BuffTowlie wrote: Psyclown

Thanks man i shall take your advice. much appreciated. But my knowledge is that with clen its great to use two weeks on and then two weeks off.


Step 1

Read this CLEN

Step 2

Follow what Fakey recommended in the above post regarding your cycle dosages
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24 Nov 2015 22:20 #193465 by BuffTowlie
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thanks a lot guys really appreciate it......so i should drop the winstrol completely and increase clen dosage......just to be clear

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24 Nov 2015 22:26 - 24 Nov 2015 22:28 #193467 by Oupa
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did you read the link I posted about the clen?

Your cycle should be 8 weeks of Anavar @ 60mg Per Day or 6 weeks @ 80mg per day. Your proviron you can keep at 40mg per day throughout.

Or

Run the winstrol for 6 weeks @ 50mg ED with the Proviron @ 40mg ED

But

Don't run Anavar, Winstrol and Proviron in one cycle if you do not plan on using injectable testosterone.

NB - If I was u, I would add HCG just to make sure you recovery and PCT goes smooth after the cycle.
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25 Nov 2015 08:40 #193480 by BuffTowlie
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Hi Oupa

Yes i read the link and i will be using betasleep with it. going to go get it today.

I will also just be using the Var and Proviran with the clen in stead of winny and suggested and i will also follow the dosage recommended.

Thanks again all i really appreciate it.

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