Reconsidered cycle: Test En, Mast En, Npp

Hi all,

So after reading a lot of posts I've decided to rather go for a Test, Masteron and Npp cycle as my next.

Deca and equi from my previous idea will force me to be on cycle more than I would like so this should be ideal.

Body fat is sitting at sub 12% so Im hoping to see the mast work its wonders.

1-12 Test Enan 400mg
1-12 Masteron Enan 400mg
1-10/12 NPP 350mg
10-16 Anavar 60mg p/d
1-12 Caber 0.25 e3d

PCT 3 - docs pct.

Question: Would anadrol be counter productive as a kicker seeing as this cycle is predominantly for lean gains and strength? or rather use sdrol instead?
My concerns with sdrol are the side effects are a bit haphazard and one cannot cover all bases so to say :blink:

I prefer this cycle too. I would choose sdrol over anadrol. Side effects are only bad if you take too much. If you're under 100kg then 20mg/day is enough if it's a quality brand. 30mg is like taking 150mg anadrol and expecting to feel super healthy.

Rather start the cabaser a few weeks in and then run it a few weeks longer than the NPP.

Thanks MA!

I'll try the LP sdrol at 20mg, to negate possible side effects would it be wise to run aromasin at 20mg eod or 0.5mg adex? I've read that sdrol does not aromatise but guys have noticed gyno after usage.

So just trying to cover all bases as I'm quite gyno prone :silly:

I wouldn't worry about taking more than a normal AI on cycle AI dose. Superdrol gyno is progestin related. It does not aromatise and it is not a progestin, but it's metabolites cause elevated progestin activity (like prolactin). This was well explained by a PhD biochemistry guy on another forum who manufactures a range of bodybuilding peptides and hormones.

If you take it to kickstart your cycle and are using cabaser you should be fine. I've had may gyno issues in the past with superdrol but my last 2 cycles with sdrol when I used cabaser I had no problems whatsoever. Best time to take it is early in your cycle as many people get delayed gyno after they stop the sdrol, and having high a testosterone/androgen balance will minimize the risk.

Perfect thanks MA will do so!

Will update this thread with my findings as I progress if anyone cares to follow!

Hey guys,

Finally got my goods,

Went with:
PGW test cyp
PGW MAST enan
Ciccone npp (green grocer was out of pgw so will give these a bang)
LP superdrol
LP anavar
Astra adex
Bromocriptine

Very keen to start this cycle.
Test starts tonight front loading for a week, then npp, mast and superdrol start as of next week.

Going to increase complex carb intake during the first 4 weeks during the sdrol, hopefully this will help combat the lethargy and add to my gains then drop to a carb cycling diet for the remainder.

Not wanting any water retention so I will be running 0.5mg adex eod from the beginning.

Good luck and enjoy.

Are you going to log your cycle?

Thanks Oupa!

Yes I will if guys are interested! it is my first run in with mast and superdrol so quite interested to see the effects as they take place

+1 lets do this

We are here if you need us & you will also help a lot of users by logging your cycle and sharing your xp

Hey Oupa and guys,

If I wanted to split up the injections to reduce oil volume per injection would you see any issue with this?

Npp I want to inject every 3rd day so will add the Masteron to that. and then do my test injections once a week on sundays.

dosages have changed slightly:

test 1-4 600mg 5-12 400mg
mast 1-12 400mg p/w
npp 1-10 450mg p/w

thanks!
N

Novice! wrote: Hey Oupa and guys,

If I wanted to split up the injections to reduce oil volume per injection would you see any issue with this?

Npp I want to inject every 3rd day so will add the Masteron to that. and then do my test injections once a week on sundays.

dosages have changed slightly:

test 1-4 600mg 5-12 400mg
mast 1-12 400mg p/w
npp 1-10 450mg p/w

thanks!
N

Howsit bud, I'm on a similar cycle, my suggestion would be to split the test shots to 2 a week, basically e3d or e4d and add the mast with one shot and the npp with the other shot. I think the very oily test cyp helps negate any pain from the other drugs (if any) and apparently splitting it in 2 gives slightly more stable blood levels. I'm using PGW mast 150 and it really does what it's supposed to do, I've never been more vascular and leaner.

Just my opinion but I would run the npp for 8 weeks and cabaser until week 10 so that from week 8 to 12 you can really get the full benefits of the masteron. Good choice on the sdrol, it's a brilliant drug and I personally don't get any sides from it except maybe some cramping even at 30mg/day. Interested to see how your cycle goes, keep us posted!

Hi Smith,

Thanks for the advice man.

To split all compounds equally would mean +- 4ml e3d. Just wanted to get away from that a bit.

What dosages are you running man?
Very stoked to hear u doing well on yours, that's exactly what I'm after. Dry hard quality gains and strength!

Will do for sure!

Novice! wrote: Hi Smith,

Thanks for the advice man.

To split all compounds equally would mean +- 4ml e3d. Just wanted to get away from that a bit.

What dosages are you running man?
Very stoked to hear u doing well on yours, that's exactly what I'm after. Dry hard quality gains and strength!

Will do for sure!

I'm using testoviron and PGW masteron as injectables, oral kicker was pheraplex for 3wks and I'm using proviron throughout as I feel it enhances all other steroids.

Currently I'm pinning twice a week, so basically every 3 or 4 days. Day 1 will be 1ml/250mg testoviron with 1.5ml/225mg masteron, so that's 2.5ml per injection. 500mg test and 450mg masteron a week...

Ok cool man good luck for the rest of your cycle,

Think I'm just going to bite the bullet and go with all my compounds e3d. will mean a fair amount of oil but nothing compared to what some guys take.

Had my first Mast and Npp pin on friday, was too anxious to start so jumped the gun a bit Starting superdrol tomorrow.

Let the gains begin

first 4ml pin done, not as bad as I thought.

starting my superdrl now 10mg AM and 10mg pre workout. any suggestions for increasing supps and vits during the superdrol run?
I will be taking essential as liver protection and increasing water intake as well.

So first week down, things are going as planned been eating suuper clean and training hard.

Something has definitely started working, be it the Npp or the superdol.

Seem to be dropping bodyfat nicely, very keen for the strength boost that will hopefully come soon.

Keeping my water intake high +- 4l a day.
and havent had any ill effects from the sdrol yet, fingers crossed I don't get any!

Novice! wrote: first 4ml pin done, not as bad as I thought.

starting my superdrl now 10mg AM and 10mg pre workout. any suggestions for increasing supps and vits during the superdrol run?
I will be taking essential as liver protection and increasing water intake as well.

I use Liv 52 and take fish oils with every meal throughout any cycle. I take fish oils the whole year in fact.

Just an update, Just ending 2nd week of all the products, feel somewhat slightly weaker :blink: but my workouts have been good and my pumps are improving!

so far no bad sides, had increase in night sweats, slight oily skin and my nipples are starting to get slightly sensitive and puffy so ill be starting a low does of bromo from tonight.

gained approximately 1.5kg and looking leaner so I'm smiling so far

Don't over think and react on the puffy nipple, give it a few days and check it out.

Hi Oupa,

Ok thanks I am very gyno prone as I already have a lump, will monitor it and see how it goes.

I had a bit of flu like symptoms and took some advil CS and woke up with slight pain in my abdomen. I'm drinking plenty water and on essential for liver support. But think the advil and superdrol together might've been too much?

Any advice in that Oupa? 00pump? Thinking of stopping the superdrol until the pain and flu symptoms go?

Just a note, after my 750ml water and breakfast the pain seems almost non existent so hopefully its nothing major. will be keeping an eye on it though!

Possibly just Test flu (google it) although I do know some people who have the flu at the moment. Yes I would avoid all medication while on cycle unless absolutely necessary.

Man up a little and push through nitty gritty shit. You will know when your body tells you NO NO, stop this.

Superdrol can give one flu like symptoms. Pretty common actually.

Just trying to be cautious hey Oupa, never been one to take lots of anything so Im wary of what may happen.

Thanks MA I've raised my vitamins and will ride it out.

Had 2 varsity tests yesterday and today so the stress of that couldnt have helped.