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What went wrong ?
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13 Aug 2015 09:54 #188942
by Gi-Joe
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Hi Guys
First of all thank you for this great site been reading and doing home work here for a while.
Ok to the point, I urgently need some advice on what went wrong on my last cycle.
My Basic info first:
Age: 29
Hight: (sorry cant remember 1.8 or close to there lol)
Weight: 80kg (was constant 85 for years)
Cycles Done: Only 1
gonna try to keep it short but have so many things to cover, I was on a 12 week cycle which included the following (this was a recommendation form a very old friend with many cycles under the belt not saying he is right but i gave it a try:
week 1-6 dbol 30mg a day
week 1-12 sustanon 250 1ml per week (injected every monday)
week 1-12 testoviron 1ml per week (injected every monday)
OK When i started the cycle i had a stomach and was 85kg i was skinny in other parts and I am a hard gainer, during my first 6 weeks my weight screwed around
big time it was very irregular some weeks i gained 3kg next week i lost some again but slowly I picked up and eventually it balanced out and at the end of my cycle i was standing on around 92kg
my diet was solid in my opinion i was eating very healthy and trying to hit the 3500 calories mark don't think I achieved it often but i tried my best.
I was not very pleased with the results, i looked good thou and my stomach was almost flat but this was intended as a bulking cycle and i ended up looking ripped with no drastic mass gain as expected
Since my cycle ended I lost everything even a little more that what i use to have for example my waist was 34 now i am down to a 28 again (very sad) lost almost all my definition and lost a lot of weight, I am so desperate for solid advice at the moment some good friends of mine gain like 10-12kg's in a cycle and keep like 8 or sometimes even more and i know for a fact there diets are not right, Where am i going wrong guys ?
Important factors which might also play a roll:
Went through a divorce during this time (stress)
after my cycle I got a little depressed and skipped meals want eating as good
I confess I didn't run proper pct (used d-asparic acid powder with my shakes as a natural test boost to get everything back to normal again)
I am 12 weeks of cycle now and i am planing my next one but need some advice, before I go through the same disappointment again, the above greatly discouraged me and everyone i speak to has a different opinion and this left me so confused !!!
I will post my cycle idea next just trying to keep post short
Your advise and answers are greatly appreciated and thank you all in advance !!!
First of all thank you for this great site been reading and doing home work here for a while.
Ok to the point, I urgently need some advice on what went wrong on my last cycle.
My Basic info first:
Age: 29
Hight: (sorry cant remember 1.8 or close to there lol)
Weight: 80kg (was constant 85 for years)
Cycles Done: Only 1
gonna try to keep it short but have so many things to cover, I was on a 12 week cycle which included the following (this was a recommendation form a very old friend with many cycles under the belt not saying he is right but i gave it a try:
week 1-6 dbol 30mg a day
week 1-12 sustanon 250 1ml per week (injected every monday)
week 1-12 testoviron 1ml per week (injected every monday)
OK When i started the cycle i had a stomach and was 85kg i was skinny in other parts and I am a hard gainer, during my first 6 weeks my weight screwed around
big time it was very irregular some weeks i gained 3kg next week i lost some again but slowly I picked up and eventually it balanced out and at the end of my cycle i was standing on around 92kg
my diet was solid in my opinion i was eating very healthy and trying to hit the 3500 calories mark don't think I achieved it often but i tried my best.
I was not very pleased with the results, i looked good thou and my stomach was almost flat but this was intended as a bulking cycle and i ended up looking ripped with no drastic mass gain as expected
Since my cycle ended I lost everything even a little more that what i use to have for example my waist was 34 now i am down to a 28 again (very sad) lost almost all my definition and lost a lot of weight, I am so desperate for solid advice at the moment some good friends of mine gain like 10-12kg's in a cycle and keep like 8 or sometimes even more and i know for a fact there diets are not right, Where am i going wrong guys ?
Important factors which might also play a roll:
Went through a divorce during this time (stress)
after my cycle I got a little depressed and skipped meals want eating as good
I confess I didn't run proper pct (used d-asparic acid powder with my shakes as a natural test boost to get everything back to normal again)
I am 12 weeks of cycle now and i am planing my next one but need some advice, before I go through the same disappointment again, the above greatly discouraged me and everyone i speak to has a different opinion and this left me so confused !!!
I will post my cycle idea next just trying to keep post short
Your advise and answers are greatly appreciated and thank you all in advance !!!
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13 Aug 2015 10:19 - 13 Aug 2015 10:21 #188943
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You said it yourself my man, those are your issues.
Although your weight was jumping up and down - you ended up gaining a decent amount of weight at the end of your cycle. It may not have been the +/-10kgs that your friends gained but maybe they had higher calories (clean or not) or are able to gain weight more easily (genetically). Your cycle was fine, nothing dramatically wrong with it but PCT is a very important part of your cycle and that's what you didn't do right.
The stress, depression and skipping meals would have all lead to you losing some of the gains that you made. And you're probably left with shut down test levels because you didn't do a proper PCT.
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Gi-Joe wrote: Important factors which might also play a roll:
Went through a divorce during this time (stress)
after my cycle I got a little depressed and skipped meals want eating as good
I confess I didn't run proper pct (used d-asparic acid powder with my shakes as a natural test boost to get everything back to normal again)
You said it yourself my man, those are your issues.
Although your weight was jumping up and down - you ended up gaining a decent amount of weight at the end of your cycle. It may not have been the +/-10kgs that your friends gained but maybe they had higher calories (clean or not) or are able to gain weight more easily (genetically). Your cycle was fine, nothing dramatically wrong with it but PCT is a very important part of your cycle and that's what you didn't do right.
The stress, depression and skipping meals would have all lead to you losing some of the gains that you made. And you're probably left with shut down test levels because you didn't do a proper PCT.
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22 Aug 2015 17:21 #189187
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PCT. Definately PCT! Could you please clarify the cycles you run. Are you in week 12 of your first or second cycle? How long did you wait before starting the next cycle?
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