First Tren cycle advice

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08 Apr 2015 21:58 #184184 by BoostedBro
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Hey fellow lifter

Im new to posting but I've been reading and learning here for years.
Im busy planning a new cycle and i would like your advice and critique please.
I want to go on a lean bulk cycle and was thinking of taking the big step and trying Tren.

Week 1-12 Test En @ 300mg/week
Week 1-10 Tren Ace @ 80mg ED
Week 1-4 Anaps @ 50mg ED
HCG from week 5 until PCT start @ 250iu twice a week
Caber @ 0.5mg every 5 days until 4 weeks after last Tren shot
Arimidex on hand if any gyno creeps up
Bridge with Test Prop @ 2ml EOD and 50mg winnies per day

I'll be running PCT 3.

Stats:
26 years old
12% bf
187cm tall
100 kg

This will be my 5th cycle. I have done 3 cycles of Test En and 1 cycle of Sust and Deca.

Diet is pretty clean at 3800 cals per day.

Thank you and im looking forward to your advice

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09 Apr 2015 00:23 #184189 by Hormonas
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Quickly read over your cycle. It looks well set out to me, 80mg ED is quite high for the first time using Tren though. 120mg 3x per week may be another option and then bump it up if you really want to.

Some people love EQ but it kills sex drive in others, some love Test but some bloat into a little water balloon, some people feel like God on Tren while others think that their relationship is falling apart and that they need to spy on their girlfriends/wives. I'm not trying to scare you off of Tren because it's a beautiful compound but just be careful with it. Some people don't react too well to it mentally but there is only one way to find out and I'm glad you have chosen the Acetate ester and that you have Caber in the cycle. That said, I know guys running 1.4g Tren for 40 weeks a year because they cant get enough of the stuff so who knows where you will wind up ;)

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09 Apr 2015 08:35 #184190 by BoostedBro
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Thanks for the advice Hormonas! I was actually thinking that 80mg ED was a little high. I just thought to go with ED injections to keep blood levels more stable or would it not be that noticable from EOD injections? I will take your advice and go with 120mg 3x per week.

What do you think about the low Test high Tren protocol? Is the way i put it correct?

Yes from all I've read about Tren it is a harsh compound physically and mentally so it will be a challenge to see how i handle it but i like challenges so im looking forward to it! The main reason i chose Tren Ace is because if i cant handle the sides then i can just drop it and carry on. Whoa 1.4g of Tren sounds insane :woohoo: They probably get into a straitjacket after gym to keep from smashing some bro's heads in!

Thank you Hormonas I appreciate your advice a huge amount!

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09 Apr 2015 08:51 #184191 by Rhino
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80mg of tren EOD is more than enough for a first time user.

Go big or go home...

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09 Apr 2015 09:09 #184193 by BoostedBro
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Thank you Rhino 80mg EOD it is, im still learning eveyday so i appreciate it alot!

I was thinking of maybe adding Masteron at 100mg EOD to the cycle. Do you think its a wise choice or am i adding too many things to this cycle?

Rhino I've read your post on the IGF-1 LR3 and it looked like it helped you alot with keeping your gains during and after PCT, do you think i should add it to my PCT protocol and a couple of months after PCT? I know nothing comes close to keeping gains after cycle than a proper diet and i have learned that the hard way but I have hardly lost any gains after my last 3 cycles but if the IGF-1 helps in that regard then why not utilize it!

Thanks a million bro

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09 Apr 2015 12:21 #184197 by Rhino
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If was going to run IGF again it would be on cycle to make the most of swelling the new muscle fibers it's ment to create. The biggest benefit I found of running it with PCT and post was that I could eat at a huge surplus and still stay lean but I don't think it helped much as far as keeping gains go:

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09 Apr 2015 12:37 #184201 by Hormonas
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In response to the low Test high Tren, I've done it that way before and I found that the side effects were lower when compared to those that I got on high Test low Tren or high Test high Tren. Masteron is a very good edition to a Test and Tren cycle.

The cycle you are now looking at is one which a lot of fitness models use - Test, Tren, Masteron and then an oral which will keep the muscle bellies full and prevent you from looking too flat.

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09 Apr 2015 13:55 #184205 by BoostedBro
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Well its good to know the IGF helped you stay lean while eating at a surplus because during and after PCT i think it's necessary to eat at a surplus to help solidify the gains you get on cycle. I think i will add it to a future cycle for sure. Rhino have you noticed any extra growth with the sites you used to inject IGF on the cycle you are currently on?

Hormonas if thats the case then i will add the Masteron to this cycle for sure! Thanks for all the advice its good to know im on the right path with this cycle! Is there anything i might be overlooking?

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09 Apr 2015 20:59 #184220 by Muscleaddict
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80mg EOD of PGW tren A is definitely enough. Potent stuff.

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19 Apr 2015 11:53 #184588 by Pyroclasm
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Definately clever to use the Ace ester on your first cycle. If you find the Tren kicking your ass then change to ED injections.

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19 Apr 2015 14:15 #184599 by BoostedBro
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Thank you for all the great advice! I will definitely follow everyone's advice! I'm going to start my cycle in June and then i will start a cycle log to keep track of my progress.

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