first time bulk cycle.

so after lot of reading and deciding i'm going to do my first cycle.
might i just add i'm scared shitless of needle's.
any advice/suggestions you could give me would be appreciated.

stats:
age 23
training since age 16.
length 1.9
weight 100kg
goal: add some muscle mass.
bf% between 16% last checked will get a skinfold test soon.

week 1-3: test prop 100mg E2D
week 1-12: test E at 250mg (Monday and Thursday)
week 1-10: 19-nor at 300mg (Monday's)
week 4-11: dostinex at 0.25mg E5D (will increase if i get to emotional)
week 3-11: HCG at 250 iu E4D
week 1-13 armidex at 0.5mg E5D

Then for my bridge between cycle and pct ill use clen to lose a bit of fat.
day 1-3:40mcg
day 4-6:60mcg
day 7-8:80mcg
day 9-11: 100mcg
day 12-13: 120mcg
day 14-15: 100mcg
day 16-17: 80mcg
day 18-19: 60mcg
day 20-21: 40mcg

will wait 35 days after last TEST E injection just a reminder the 19-nor is done on week 10 so the long waiting period for it will start when i'm still on the test e.
and then pct number 3.

also adding 1000mg vitamin C ED for better mood.
diet will be provided by a Dietician.

Hier kom kak...


What 19nor?

Why using that for a first cycle? When there is a perfect sample cycle on this site (beginners bulk)

Your Bodyfat is too high...

Clen will only help Lose fat if you in a deficit, the last thing you want during a bridge when T levels are taking a dive.

Scared of needles but want to kickstart with prop? Uuum...

You have a lot of research to do before you come near the stuff bud...

I have to agree with Mason, would recommend you lower body fat percentage before you start your cycle.
Also keep it simple as its only your first cycle. I would suggest you follow the beginners bulking cycle as is from the sample cycles. As for the needles lol there's actually nothing to it. Just make sure its done correctly. There's plenty information on the site you could benefit from.

Hey Buddy

I think you are over thinking this whole thing

I would say go for the beginner bulk cycle, i know your don't want to take orals, but i do think its gonna be your best bet,

As I personally know you, and know you are very highly qualified as a trainer, as well as a very strong person, anabolic's is a whole different monster on its own, rather take a small step to test the waters than jump in on the deep end finding out its effen cold

you have to take small steps so you know how your body responds to the different compounds, and as it is going to be your fist cycle you will have great results on the beginner cycle,

I'm not sure if you can replace the oral Dbol for something injectable but members on the forum are very helpful and have a vast knowledge as well as experience with this so they might be able to help you with that

Good luck

Dostinex if you get to emotional... ? LOL...Its not really a sweet like smarties you know... adding 1000mg vitC for mood enhancement... EISH

You are suppressing a shit load of hormones with such a low dosed cycle, why?

I honestly feel sorry for your hormone imbalanced levels with that planned cycle.

Also how did you get to that clen cycle?

Oupa wrote: Yes. Use the dostinex every 4th or 5th day, depends on your moods..... Depression can become an issue with Deca, so when you start feeling emotional and shit, decrease your waiting time on dostinex to E3D or so.

was this not you oupa telling this to the guy?
so your contradicting yourself now??? :ohmy:

STEROIDLOVER wrote:

Oupa wrote: Yes. Use the dostinex every 4th or 5th day, depends on your moods..... Depression can become an issue with Deca, so when you start feeling emotional and shit, decrease your waiting time on dostinex to E3D or so.

was this not you oupa telling this to the guy?

Absolutely.

I am sure the circumstances between my advice given to that member and yours might differ substantially ? This is your first cycle, that was his 4th?

Way too complex.
No need for 19nor of any kind & at 300mg/week, just not worth the pain, effort, sides, suppression.
Front load with Prop?? OK, but why @ average of 366mg/week??

STEROIDLOVER wrote: so your contradicting yourself now??? :ohmy:

Ag ouboet, fokkof en gaan soek advies erens anders.

oupa
give advice don't try to belittle me, i'm here for advice. what do you suggest then?
and turning my karma down does not matter to me.

STEROIDLOVER wrote: oupa
don't try to belittle me,

But you are 6 feet 2, 100kg and shit scared of needles... :woohoo:

Just do a easier cycle ease yourself into it.
Everyone here is giving you sound advice.
Try the cycle below it works for a begginer

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/articles/sample-cycles/48-cycle-1

Thanks @mince!

Oupa what's that saying "once a dick always a dick" that applies to you! I wonder how many users you chased of the forum due to the fact of you contradicting yourself and that you try to degrade users.

@Steroidlover: Drop the attitude my dude! You must realise that the advice the mods give are specific to someone's circumstances and not general advice. The way we advise someone on their fourth cycle is obviously very different to someone on their first cycle! We don't just spit out generic advice.

Mason Might wrote: Hier kom kak...

Jeez, you called it, HKGK!!!! :whistle:

STEROIDLOVER wrote: Thanks @mince!

Oupa what's that saying "once a dick always a dick" that applies to you! .

Oupa wrote:

STEROIDLOVER wrote: Thanks @mince!

Oupa what's that saying "once a dick always a dick" that applies to you! .

Beautiful is spelt wrong Oups

STEROIDLOVER wrote: Thanks @mince!

Oupa what's that saying "once a dick always a dick" that applies to you! I wonder how many users you chased of the forum due to the fact of you contradicting yourself and that you try to degrade users.

I warned you! Take three days to look at your attitude.

FIllet wrote:

Oupa wrote:

STEROIDLOVER wrote: Thanks @mince!

Oupa what's that saying "once a dick always a dick" that applies to you! .

Beautiful is spelt wrong Oups

Again with the details bro... :lol:

Just playing with Oups bud.

Its spelt wrong for a reason

lol oupa u class.

STEROIDLOVER some advice: i had the same attitude when i joined the forum. and realised that the guys are there to help. and they wont normally respond the way that u like them to. but wil point u in the right directions.

so take every criticism and turn it into something good.

hope u find the correct bulking cycle buddy.

New name new outlook? Ready to stop bitching and grow?

turn over a new leaf, yes time to grow but bitching i don't know.... just kidding