Prop/Var cycle & Timing before a photo shoot

Hi guys,

I am doing a shoot on 29th March - So 10 weeks out - 1st time prepping for something like this.

I got some prop, var, winstrol & proviron that I am going to run, oh yes FOF as well if needed. PGW & LP

HCG, Nolva & Clomid for PCT.

I want to find out about timing each of the compounds so that I am not bloated or flat on the day.

Prop 8 weeks at 1 ml EOD - How many weeks before the 29th do I need to stop prop, 2 weeks or can I go up to that week?

Then what is the best timing for the orals, Var, Winny & proivon. I am use to running dbol/tbol or var in beginning 4 - 6 weeks, and then bridging with Winny, and then do PCT

Also the last week with dropping water / what is the best way to do carb up etc as I have never attempted this.

Diet will be 110% with calories worked out to the tee.

Any advice appreciated, do's & don't, and add or leave out compounds - open to the experts ideas.

Thanks

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What do you guys think?

if you are lean and dry 2 weeks out then there is no need to drop the test.

look at upping the test to 150mg as 300mg of prop a week it TRT/HRT dosage, you want to still be able to grow. if you havent bought your orals yet get hold of some Halo instead of winny. its better for drying you out and fulling you out than winstrol if used for 2 weeks before the show. its not worth running it longer as it makes u feel like ass.

if this was me :

week 8 to 5days from the shoot :

150mg test p eod

week 8 to shoot day
50mg anavar
60mg proviron

week 2- shoot
20mg of Halotestin.

as for fat burners

use clen on a 2 week on 2 week off basis :80mcg week 1,140mcg week 2. then off.
make sure your clen stops 1 week out from the show that you dont battle to carb up as the clen flattens you out.

yohimbine HCL
10mg 2x daily, before am cardio, and inbetween carb meals.

t3 :

25mcg-50mcg will be needed.

as for the last week prep.

if photo shoot is on the saturday morning :

load carbs between 2000-3000g on tuesday. yes you heard me correctly. this will make your muscle full out and spill over with water. over the next 5 days return diet back to normal (low to mod carbs) keeping water intake at about 6-8l the whole time. by the friday the water will have naturally dropped off from under the skin, but the muscle will be full and hard.

diuretic usage : use 1/2 an adco retic the night before the show at 8:00pm and cut water (keep water intake at 6l up untill that point.

if still holding water use an aditional 1/2 an adco retic 6hours before the shoot with 1L of water to avoid cramping.

when dropping water night before add back sodium into the diet, this will force blood pressure up and make you more vascular. slap chips with loads of salt 3 hours before the shoot should help do this quite well.

have fun and make sure you are shredded at least 2 weeks from the show.

That clen dose is a bit high for my liking... 120mcg max.
Also why run 2 on 2 off when you can use betasleep to upregulate receptors?
Read Pyros clen thread called everything you need to know about clenbuterol.


Make sure you know what comes along with t3, you going to be hungry as hell... Need some serious discipline there.
That's not even going into the risks of using it and a thyroid Pct if that makes sense.
Don't go near it without anabolics, it doesn't differentiate between fat an muscle.

3000g of carbs is 12000 calories!!!
Ummm I don't think so...

I can't answer this question for you bud but wait for a senior member to chime... Steve C I'm sorry dude but I totally disagree with what you saying here

cool thanks guys

sure most people will be able to reply today as everyone back to work and back on forum etc

Mason might read up on skip loading/shit loading or fill and spill. Its over saturating the muscle with glycogen so that you spill over subq. Have u ever seen guys say they look better the day after a show when they have binged and eaten everything in sight and full out and wish they looked like that on stage? Hard full and dry? So you can disagree all you want.but it works

140mcg isnt much when you arent using receptor up regulators when you have done a week at 80mcg and receptors are already bashed and beaten. 120mcg max when taking betasleep or benadryl yes.

12000 calories!!!

That's the equivalent of 9 Large debonairs pizzas...

600g of carbs I can understand...

Note i said 2000-3000. This dependant on the size of the guy and wr dont know all the facts. If you read on djs contest thread on thos web site he was 2000g carb up weekly. So dont be so shocked and amazed. It is all possible. This is just advice that crawler can take and research more at his disposal.

Yes, I think a bit of research is in order... Goodluck bud.

SteveC wrote:
use clen on a 2 week on 2 week off basis :80mcg week 1,140mcg week 2. then off.
make sure your clen stops 1 week out from the show that you dont battle to carb up as the clen flattens you out.

yohimbine HCL
10mg 2x daily, before am cardio, and inbetween carb meals.

This is dangerous advice and if someone with an unknowingly weakened heart used this they would be in a world of trouble. Be sure to read up on Clenbuterol and Yohimbine on this site for proper protocols.

Not keen on doing T3 or similar

Can anyone else help with compounds on hand?

crawler wrote: Not keen on doing T3 or similar

T3 is dangerous stuff. I almost permanently stuffed my thyroid with this stuff and that was on a low dose.