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Hudlim031 wrote: No no, If you have the 20mg take one in the morning and one in the afternoon.
So 40mg in total.
Rather split them morning and nights. The dosage is correct.
Sorry, see how this could cause confusion. I meant nights. Took mine at 7 in the morning and 7 (ish) at night.
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Can i replace the oral winstrol with stanazolol?
If yes, stanazolol is 50mg/ml, what dosage must i use.
Can i mix my Test-E with the stanazolol
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You can drink the liquid, better than than pinning it! Stanozolol depot is notorious for causing Abcess's.
Depends on what dose you want? If you can, try get LP oral winstrol, if not drink the liquid. Max dose at 50mg ED. 30-50 ideal depending on personal needs.
When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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With water I imagine would be fine... Never done it myself though
When it hurts... That's when i start counting, because that's when it starts to count.
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Finalization of the cycle. Please feel free to comment.
Just want to make sure I covered all the basis.
Please check my quantities and please comment if my calculations are correct.
Cutting Cycle 1
Chemical : Week : Dosage : Quantity
Test – E : 1-16 : 600mg pw EOD : x 3
Proviron 20 : 1-20 : 40mg ED Split : x 6
Oral Winstrol 10 : 1-5 : 20mg ED Split : (Oral winny: 10mg - 50 caps)
Oral Winstrol 10 : 15-20 : 20mg ED Split : x 3
HCG : 4-20 : 500iu pw EOD : x 2
PCT
Clomid : 20-22 : 50mg ED : x 1
Nolvadex : 22-26 : 20mg ED : x 1
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Yes. Am i making a mistake there?Hudlim031 wrote: Is that 20mg Winstrol in total a day? 10mg in the morning and 10mg at night?
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Hi Pyro. Yes. But please assist where you can. Any suggestions?Pyroclasm wrote: You will need 4x vials Test-En if you pin 2ml per week. Are you really going to pin Test-En EOD for 16 weeks?
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Yes. Am i making a mistake there?Hudlim031 wrote: Is that 20mg Winstrol in total a day? 10mg in the morning and 10mg at night?
Yes, not high enough IMO. Go for 40mg a day split 20/20
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Hi Pyro. Yes. But please assist where you can. Any suggestions?Pyroclasm wrote: You will need 4x vials Test-En if you pin 2ml per week. Are you really going to pin Test-En EOD for 16 weeks?
Test e has a half life of 8 to 10 days. No need to pin EOD.
Twice a week should be sufficient
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Hi Pyro. Yes. But please assist where you can. Any suggestions?Pyroclasm wrote: You will need 4x vials Test-En if you pin 2ml per week. Are you really going to pin Test-En EOD for 16 weeks?
The idea of the cycle is basic and will do you well.
Test-En pin twice a week. EOD pins for 16 weeks you will feel like you came back from WW2!
Winstrol 40mg ED. Any reason you want to kick start with Winstrol compared to Dbol or Tbol?
I.m.o Proviron is a waste of money if you don't use it with a DHT, so only use Proviron when you use Winstrol or Anavar.
Add: AI on hand in case of estrogen gyno.
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With 40mg at 20/20 split gives 6x 50 caps. trust that this is correct?Hudlim031 wrote:
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Yes. Am i making a mistake there?Hudlim031 wrote: Is that 20mg Winstrol in total a day? 10mg in the morning and 10mg at night?
Yes, not high enough IMO. Go for 40mg a day split 20/20
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This was a cycle suggested by Oupa for another individual. Just tried to personalise it for my need.Pyroclasm wrote:
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Hi Pyro. Yes. But please assist where you can. Any suggestions?Pyroclasm wrote: You will need 4x vials Test-En if you pin 2ml per week. Are you really going to pin Test-En EOD for 16 weeks?
The idea of the cycle is basic and will do you well.
Test-En pin twice a week. EOD pins for 16 weeks you will feel like you came back from WW2!
Winstrol 40mg ED. Any reason you want to kick start with Winstrol compared to Dbol or Tbol?
I.m.o Proviron is a waste of money if you don't use it with a DHT, so only use Proviron when you use Winstrol or Anavar.
Add: AI on hand in case of estrogen gyno.
Using proviron because of the winny (Low libido stuff). So the suggestion was as I've put it now. With Test - E to a virgin muscle will be tricky. What would you suggest pyro?
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That done twice (kick start and Bridge) totals 224 pills.
So 5 x 50 Would be sufficient.
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Yea first cycle. My plan was @ 12% bf do the cycle to really lean out and get the dry physique. Then consider bulking up. Dream starts:Pyroclasm wrote: What exactly do you want to achieve with the cycle? What are your dream stats? This is your first cycle yeah?
Single digit bf% then maybe compete.
I once got to 11% bf but my lower abdominal still had extra fat. And abs not showing. Maybe lost more muscle than fat.
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Week 1-12: Test Cyp 2ml per week
Week 1-5: Winstrol @40mg ED
Week 12-PCT: Winstrol @40mg ED
Week 5-PCT: HCG @250iu twice a week
PCT 1
Letrozole on hand in case of gyno
Cruciale 6 tabs ED starting two weeks before cycle and run until end of PCT.
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Pyroclasm wrote: I would leave the Proviron completely and do it like this:
Week 1-12: Test Cyp 2ml per week
Week 1-5: Winstrol @40mg ED
Week 12-PCT: Winstrol @40mg ED
Week 5-PCT: HCG @250iu twice a week
PCT 1
Letrozole on hand in case of gyno
Cruciale 6 tabs ED starting two weeks before cycle and run until end of PCT.
Crucial? Which one is that? And what would be the quantities of these chemicals if i may ask? Thank you for your help pyro
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