Beginner lean mass cycle

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01 Aug 2014 19:24 #172857 by Zerodefect
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Hi Guys

I've been reading quite a few of the threads and articles on here and need a bit of advice on a cycle for gaining lean mass as a beginner.

I've been training for about 9 years but never did any juice apart from my first cycle, where I tried the Anavar/Proviron oral only cycle suggested here: Anavar & Proviron beginner cutting & strength cycle

I saw some good strength gains and did put on a few kgs of lean muscle, which I'm happy about. Did PCT as recommended. However, the more I read the more I see people advising that running orals only is not only a waste of cash but won't get you anywhere near the results of running injectables.

Though I've never done IM injections before I'm convinced that I should give it a try.

My goal is to gain some good, lean mass, drop bf a couple of percent, and maintain muscle definition.
I'm 31, 1.78m tall and weigh 76kgs with around 11% bf.I eat well - lean proteins, no carbs at night, only good fats, supplement with some pure whey as needed to make my protein requirement in between, especially before and after workouts.

I would like to try the Dianabol & Testocyp Beginner Bulking Cycle as it's recommended for people who haven't pinned before and are relatively new to AS.

My main questions are:

1) Dianabol - I understand it to be quite hepatotoxic and that this is a consideration with most orals, but am not sure about the level of stress this dosage would be putting my liver under. Should I be considering swopping it out for something else at all? I found I tolerated Anavar well and got good results on it. Or should I be considering something else?

2) Bridging - Sorry if this is a stupid question. I read a similar question on AlexRon's Beginner Cycle where some people advised using Anavar for this - Would you say that's a good idea, say 60mg ED and do I start this from the beginning or only during the time between my last Test and beginning PCT?

3)If I stay on a clean diet, would it be necessary to add anything to ensure my gains are lean and to maintain good definition as opposed to just getting bigger?

Appreciate any criticism and advice!

Cheers

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01 Aug 2014 19:51 #172860 by admin
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1: The dosage of Dianabol in the sample cycle is low enough that it is perfectly safe for most beginners.

2: Adding a bridge is a good idea. It's not in the sample cycle because I wanted to keep it simple and cheap. Anavar will make a good bridge before PCT.

3: Maybe a very low dose of Arimidex, because if you are on a lean diet you obviously won't mind the small loss of gains from low oestrogen levels anyway.
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01 Aug 2014 20:52 #172861 by Zerodefect
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Thanks very much!

So in the sample cycle I'd run the Anavar at 60mg ED from day 78 to 106?
Was thinking of running Arimidex yeah, just to keep the estrogen low. Should 0.5mg eod suffice or do you recommend ED dosage?

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06 Aug 2014 07:48 #172995 by MrB
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Would love to know the answer on the anavar dosage for bridge?....also doing the bulking cycle!

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06 Aug 2014 08:21 #173000 by admin
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MrB wrote: Would love to know the answer on the anavar dosage for bridge?....also doing the bulking cycle!


There is no answer to give, because the dosage is up to the person doing the cycle.

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06 Aug 2014 15:53 - 06 Aug 2014 15:56 #173020 by mike123
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The average is around 60mg u could start with 40mg if u a big oak go up to 80 mg...

bridge for 6 to 8 weeks ...
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28 Oct 2014 20:03 #176787 by Zerodefect
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Hi everyone.

I have all my gear and PCT assembled and will probably get started on this cycle in about two weeks. Just a question concerning the PCT protocol 2 and HCG:

I see some senior boarders have commented on other threads that they prefer to take HCG on cycle (I think from week 4 until PCT) rather than with the clomid and nolva during PCT.

I was wondering if it would be better to run the HCG during this cycle (after I'm done with the dbol) up until PCT at a dosage of 500iu twice a week, or whether it's simple enough to just stick to the PCT 2 (500iu EOD x 10 once done with the clomid, when I start the Nolva).

I plan to bridge with anavar after I stop the test cyp until I start PCT.

Thanks!

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28 Oct 2014 20:53 #176793 by Oupa
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You can start your HCG one you finished the Dbols. You will need at least 6 weeks of anavar so make sure your timing is spot on.
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28 Oct 2014 21:33 #176797 by Zerodefect
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Great thanks Oupa, appreciate the feedback.

So the final cycle will look like this:

Week 1-4: (Day 1-25): Dbol 40mg/day
Week 1-11: Test cyp 250mg/dose (3 days between doses as per sample cycle)
Week 1-15: Arimidex 0,25mg E3D
Week 5-15: HCG 250iu Mon & Thurs, 500iu Mon & Thurs in week 14 and 15.

Bridge Week 10-15: Anavar 60mg/day

PCT
Week 16: Clomid 2 x 50mg/day
Week 17-20: Nolva 20mg/day

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28 Oct 2014 22:16 #176806 by Oupa
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That looks good.

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