Tren E, Test Prop, GW-501516 and Winny Cycle

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17 Jul 2014 22:05 #172159 by Murder 1
Howsit Gents

I'm no Gear expert so please excuse my idiocy and ignorance. I've done a couple cycles before so I'm not totally naïve lol.

Age: 32
Weight: 102kg
Height: 1.76
BF: 16 to 18 percent
Goal: Cut bodyfat drastically

My proposed cycle is:

Week 1 to 12 - Tren E: 400mg p/wk
Week 1 to 3 - Test Prop 400mg p/wk (kickstart)
Week 1 to 12 - GW-501516 10mg per day
Week 9 to 12 - Winny Tabs 50 mg per day

Will be using Leterozole at 0.25mg per day for entire 12 weeks.

Clomid and Nolvadex for PCT.

The reason I'm only using Test Prop for 3 weeks is because I don't want that bloated, watery look. I've done test cypionate at 500mg per week for 16 weeks and I ended up looking like the Michellin Tyre Man. So I would like to avoid Test at all costs except for the 3 week kickstart?

Please critique, thanks in advance

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18 Jul 2014 07:46 - 18 Jul 2014 07:58 #172168 by mike123
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No boet u have to use test with tren otherwise your dick wont work ..also if u use prop there wont be water retension and cyp only if your body fat is high ...that Tren amount is too high if it is the first time using ..200mg imo ...but I would surgest u read the diet stickies try a keto diet and a fat burner and get as low as u can before going on cycle...steriods are not fat burners as such ....HCG in your PCT / Cycle ?
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18 Jul 2014 08:40 #172174 by RonTheSaveg
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Murder 1 wrote:
Age: 32
Weight: 102kg
Height: 1.76
BF: 16 to 18 percent
Goal: Cut bodyfat drastically


Welcome Murder.

Bru you must be a 'beast' with these stats. That's some serious mass you have for your height. How did you measure your BF%? And are you sure it's between 16 and 18?

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18 Jul 2014 08:44 #172176 by RonTheSaveg
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Murder 1 wrote:
Goal: Cut bodyfat drastically


^^^^^^
This indicates to me it's not between 16-18% BF. ;)

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18 Jul 2014 08:48 #172177 by Oupa

Murder 1 wrote:
The reason I'm only using Test Prop for 3 weeks is because I don't want that bloated, watery look. I've done test cypionate at 500mg per week for 16 weeks and I ended up looking like the Michellin Tyre Man. So I would like to avoid Test at all costs except for the 3 week kickstart?

Please critique, thanks in advance


That is bullshit. If you ended up looking like a oros man, it was because your diet & training sucked and not the test. I know many guys getting ripped on test only cycles.
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18 Jul 2014 09:04 #172180 by Murder 1
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Thanks for the critique. As for the Cyp cycle back then, my diet was shit but the training was on point.

Other than a limp dick, what other disadvantages are there if I'm only running Prop for 3 weeks along with Tren E for 12.

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18 Jul 2014 10:37 #172198 by RonTheSaveg
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Murder 1 wrote:
Other than a limp dick, what other disadvantages


You NEVER have to experience a 'limp' dick on any cycle bru. It can be considered a disadvantage, if you dunno what you doing. Otherwise it can't be considered as disadvantage, that's not correct.

You need to run Cabeser if you gonna run Tren.

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18 Jul 2014 10:50 - 18 Jul 2014 10:53 #172201 by Oupa

Murder 1 wrote: Thanks for the critique. As for the Cyp cycle back then, my diet was shit but the training was on point.

Other than a limp dick, what other disadvantages are there if I'm only running Prop for 3 weeks along with Tren E for 12.


You are going to hurt yourself brolio ! If its your first tren cycle , dont run tren E. Use tren A. And tren A for 8 weeks max.

I will give advice once, take it or leave it

Week 1 to 14 - Test E @ 300mg pw
Week 1 to 12 - Tren E @ 300mg pw
Week 1 to 14 - Masteron E @ 300mg pw
Week 1 to 16 - GW-501516 @ 10mg per day
Week 11 to 16 - Winny Tabs @ 40 mg per day
Week 4 - 16 HCG @ 500ui per week split mon/thu

Cabaser throughout @ 0.5mg E5D
Letro on hand for gyno

Clomid and Nolvadex for PCT. (Keep 1xHCG extra on hand if your recovery is shit from tren)

Diet @ 300 - 500 calorie deficit
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18 Jul 2014 10:54 #172203 by Murder 1
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Thanks Oupa, appreciate it mate

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18 Jul 2014 10:59 #172204 by Oupa
Cool, You will not blow up with test, forget about that brolio bullshit. Food is what cuts you, not steroids alone. Remember that.

Friendly warning.... If your diet is going to be shit with the cycle mentioned above, you are going to have nasty fucked up side effects.
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18 Jul 2014 11:18 #172212 by mike123
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What bigger side do u want than not having sex at age 32 and possibley permanent ...u going to feel k*k without test in your system and possibley sucidele/moody as shit..use cyp with some letro but u need a lower body fat which is diet related so is the water retension
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18 Jul 2014 11:47 #172222 by Muscleaddict
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Great suggestion from Oupa. I just wouldn't run the masteron at your body fat % as it's not good bang for buck unless you're already pretty lean.
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