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18 Jun 2014 23:17 #170741 by G-man
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hi Cam:)just keep in mind nobody is here to attack you...the bro's here are just looking out for you....you need to get your diet in-check before starting a cycle...you going to waste your money,your time and you going to 'shut yourself down' for no reason.
You need to increase your protein intake by a great margin,you need to understand the fundamentals of calorie intake etc.
Take the advice of everybody here,they will show you the right way.
Train smart,eat good and you shall find the results u seek.
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19 Jun 2014 08:50 #170746 by Cam
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Thanks G-man...

Highly appreciated.

I understand that.

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19 Jun 2014 12:39 #170764 by Nate40
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How you feeling today Cam?
How did the first pin go?

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Today I will do what I never thought possible!
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19 Jun 2014 13:57 #170772 by Cam
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Nate40 wrote: How you feeling today Cam?
How did the first pin go?

Nate


I didn't pin myself today I am struggling to find the alcohol.
I went to Clicks and Dischem and they didn't have any in stock.
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19 Jun 2014 14:02 - 19 Jun 2014 14:02 #170774 by mike123
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And the swabs ? Alchohol u get at supermarkets / chemists as well ...
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19 Jun 2014 17:36 - 19 Jun 2014 17:37 #170794 by Cam
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Nate40 wrote: Well done on trying to find it first mate. Respect.


I managed to find something at Dischem and also got some Milk Thistle as well for the liver before I start the cycle.
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19 Jun 2014 23:11 #170808 by G-man
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so Cam you going to go against the advice everybody has given you?did you get your diet in order yet and if so please post your diet on the forum...

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20 Jun 2014 06:17 #170810 by Rhino
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G-man wrote: so Cam you going to go against the advice everybody has given you?did you get your diet in order yet and if so please post your diet on the forum...


Unfortunately Bud we've seen this before! Skinny guys who think steroids are a miracle drug! If Cam can't pick up a couple of KG with diet and training naturally, learning the roles on how his body responds then all he'll gain from a cycle is water and as soon as he finishes he'll be depressed as hell when all his gains disappear over night.

Go big or go home...
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20 Jun 2014 09:05 #170820 by PoisonedPulse
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Rhino wrote:

G-man wrote: so Cam you going to go against the advice everybody has given you?did you get your diet in order yet and if so please post your diet on the forum...


Unfortunately Bud we've seen this before! Skinny guys who think steroids are a miracle drug! If Cam can't pick up a couple of KG with diet and training naturally, learning the roles on how his body responds then all he'll gain from a cycle is water and as soon as he finishes he'll be depressed as hell when all his gains disappear over night.


If there was a like button, I would press it.

Reasons like this is why I don't comment on many newbies posts... Cause they ' know' steroids alone will make them really big, but not too big you know ;)

But anyway bro, good luck anyway :)
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20 Jun 2014 13:13 #170838 by mike123
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Hes going to go for it ...I would rather try giving some direction than letting him go alone and f*cking up and then steriods get the blame ...keep us posted Cam .
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20 Jun 2014 13:32 #170840 by Muscleaddict
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Rhino wrote: Unfortunately Bud we've seen this before! Skinny guys who think steroids are a miracle drug! If Cam can't pick up a couple of KG with diet and training naturally, learning the roles on how his body responds then all he'll gain from a cycle is water and as soon as he finishes he'll be depressed as hell when all his gains disappear over night.


I just had to bump this brilliant post as well. If you haven't learned to eat to make gains before you use AAS, you are going to be very bleak and confused as you watch 90% of those those steroid gains disappear before you know it. Back to square 1.

How many skinny guys have we seen who say they can't gain weight and when told "eat more" they say "but I already eat enough, I stuff myself, it can't be that". It's simple if you aren't gaining --> eat more food! force it in! Add in more quality meals!
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21 Jun 2014 12:01 #170876 by LXIX
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My advice is to watch a few pinning vids on youtube so you have seen the process from start to finish a few times. This should help you feel more comfortable.
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Like Yolodrol, I also prefer pinning in quad. It just seems natural and easy and it helps to see what you're doing.
I suggest 23g 1 inch needle considering your weight.

Regardless of your motive or starting point, I wish you all the best with your cycle :) . But take heed of the advice here. Train heavy and learn to eat big. Its the most important thing you can do to add size and its extremely important to get enough protein down when you're on test.

Keep us posted on your progress mate.

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23 Jun 2014 15:32 #170963 by Cam
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G-man wrote: so Cam you going to go against the advice everybody has given you?did you get your diet in order yet and if so please post your diet on the forum...


Hi guys, I started with my first pin last week Friday. It was painful a bit and there was no blood when I pinned myself.

My diet is as follows:

Meal 1 at 7:30 am: 3 Beacon, 2 sausage/ cheese cake, 4 eggs, 5 slices of bread, tomato/cheese, fruit yogurt, orange juice/rooibos tea.
Meal 2 at 10am : Fruit, generally Banana, Apple or white grapes.
Meal 3 at 11am: Protein shake, 3 scoops.
Meal 4 at 12:30pm: Chicken, greensalad with rice or wedges or pasta.
Meal 5 at 3pm. Protein Shakes
Meal 6 at 4pm: Tuna fish. I eat it dry without mixing anything with it.
Meal 7 at 5pm: Fruit, red apple, banana or grape.
GYM from 6pm -8pm.
Meal 8 at 8:30pm: Rice or pap with Fish, red meat and salad.
Meal 9 at 10pm: Protein shake, 3 scoops again before going to bed.

Another thing guys, the past 2 nights during the night I feel hungry. Is it advisable to have a midnight snack of sorts when I feel hungry while sleeping? What could be causing this.

I am taking my Dianobol everyday and will have my second shot of test tomorrow morning.

Thanks guys for all your help and constructive criticism.

Highly appreciated.

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23 Jun 2014 16:05 #170966 by Muscleaddict
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If you are hungry then EAT. I wouldn't worry about being too strict on keeping your diet completely clean since you seriously struggle to gain weight. Eat mostly clean foods but don't stress about adding some mayo or sauces or some cheese here and there. If you start noticing too much fat gain you can always adjust your diet. Most people will gain fat if they suddenly increase their calories by more than around 500 a day but with your metabolism I wouldn't worry. You should really start weighing your food portions so you can keep a log on how your body responds to how much you are eating. Then adjust calories accordingly.
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24 Jun 2014 09:00 #171011 by mike123
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What MA said ... try to eat whole foods ..shake... morning after workout and night...

Explain the injection protocol u using ? what u mean by no blood ?

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24 Jun 2014 09:41 #171015 by Cam
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mike123 wrote: Explain the injection protocol u using ? what u mean by no blood ?


I am pinning myself in the gluteus area.
I am following steps that I got from online videos posted by doctors on YouTube.

I mean that first time there was no blood when I pinned myself.

This morning there was a little bit of blood, but nothing hectic and the pain was better second time around.

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24 Jun 2014 11:32 #171023 by mike123
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Ok blood is when u move the needle u nick a vein when pulling the needle out try to keep still ....as long as u not getting blood in the syringe when u aspirate ...
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24 Jun 2014 13:26 #171030 by Rhino
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Add a cup of oats to your shakes.

Go big or go home...
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24 Jun 2014 18:28 #171060 by LXIX
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Muscleaddict wrote: If you are hungry then EAT. I wouldn't worry about being too strict on keeping your diet

I couldn't agree more!
Eat from the time you wake up to the time you sleep. Don't fear carbs at night.
Calories will benefit you mate.

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24 Jun 2014 19:17 #171067 by Muscleaddict
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Put the oats in the blender and blend it until it's fine enough to drink. Then blend it with your whey and milk/water.
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