first time injecting

Hi

I was hoping to get some guidance on my planned cycle.
Age 28
Height 1.9m
Weight 101kg
Been training for 5 years where i started at 78kg.

I plan to use Tren E 150 (Precision Gear Works) , Super Test 320
and have already started on 80mg/day of Turinabol 20.
I plan to use clomid after 54 days of my last super test injection for 7days.

1. I read that it would be a good idea to have arimidex handy?
2.do i need to take proviron with my cycle?
3. should i add anything else to my pct?
4.is my waiting period too long?
5. what size needles would i need?

I think you must read the treads mate, your cycle needs attention to detail

How about doing a bit more research before you ask us to spoonfeed you on everything you need to do. If you'd spent an hour on this forum reading the stickies and articles or used the search function you'd answer most of your questions.

We don't have patience here for noobs planning a tren cycle who don't even understand the basics of doing a cycle. Tren is not something you just use for the hell of it. But we will gladly help guys who put in the effort and time.

After some talking and research this is what I have come up with. What do you think about this plan including the hcg?
On Cycle:

Weeks 1-14 Arimidex .05mg EOD

Weeks 2-14 HCG 500iu every 5 days(last shot during week 14)

Weeks 1-12 Test E 250mg Mon. & Thur.

Weeks 6-12 Tren A .75mg EOD



Post Cycle Therapy:

Wait 4 days from the last HCG shot.

Weeks - 15,16,17

Clomid - 50/100/50

Novadex - 40/40/20

Question

how long should i wait before i start PCT?
Do i run HCG with pct as well?

Muscleaddict wrote: How about doing a bit more research before you ask us to spoonfeed you on everything you need to do. If you'd spent an hour on this forum reading the stickies and articles or used the search function you'd answer most of your questions.

We don't have patience here for noobs planning a tren cycle who don't even understand the basics of doing a cycle. Tren is not something you just use for the hell of it. But we will gladly help guys who put in the effort and time.

I have even less patience for those who have already started their cycle because 90% their minds are already made up.

I had to laugh when I saw your user name :lol: change one letter and it about sums up you thinking using Tren for your first cycle is ok.

For your "fist" time I would personally just suggest a bit of test. Why go screw around with Tren? Did your chommie tell you it made him huge?

Keep it simple

Thanks vega5, not going to mess with the tren. i will wait and see how i respond to the test.
your opinion on the cycle if i remove the tren?

Thanks Rhino, really constructive. great help.

Sorry Bud no of fence I just found your user name really funny. There has just been a load of people around lately saying they are going to be using Tren as a first cycle when as MA said if they'd just spend 5min reading the articles and forum they realize how daft the idea is.

funkhead wrote: Thanks vega5, not going to mess with the tren. i will wait and see how i respond to the test.
your opinion on the cycle if i remove the tren?

Funk you must remember the stickies and rules are there for a reason. Not only to protect the site but to protect yourself. If you had read them you would understand why the guys get irritated and say what they do. Anyways.
Welcome. Lol
Start simple....If you can handle the pinning then Monday 1ml test (PGW 350mg) Thursday 1ml (PGW 350mg).
If not keen on the frequent jabs then once a week is good to but to keep sides to a minimum and bloods stable it's suggested twice a week.

its cool i understand. its a huge decision for me to switch to pinning so i am glad for the tough love.
I would rather have that than something going wrong.
I am very keen to learn as much as possible ad to fully understand what i am getting into.


Thanks guys. (Rhino,T-style and Vega5)

Have a look at the beginner bulking cycle Bud and PCT 2. You can't go wrong with that.
My first couple of cycles were test only cycles and I grew like a weed to be honest I don't no why I ever moved onto more complex cycles, test cyp doesn't hurt at all and if your diet is in check I promise you you'll GROW.

Good luck

Rhino wrote: Have a look at the beginner bulking cycle Bud and PCT 2. You can't go wrong with that.
My first couple of cycles were test only cycles and I grew like a weed to be honest I don't no why I ever moved onto more complex cycles, test cyp doesn't hurt at all and if your diet is in check I promise you you'll GROW.

Good luck

^^^^ this

To answer your other Q's,

Yes, get some adex.

No you don't need proviron.

Read this to understand what you need for PCT and why: www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/5-post-...ism-the-hpta-and-pct

Waiting period for 500mg Test Cyp : See here

22 or 23 gauge is ideal

Thanks so much guys... do I am in my third week of Supertest already... cant believe it. It doesn't hurt at all by the way. Pinning every Monday and Thursday. I just got some adex and I am taking 1 a day?...is this too much?

funkhead wrote: I just got some adex and I am taking 1 a day?...is this too much?

What dosage are you taking exactly? Is that 1 tablet? 1 drop?

1 mil twice a week (monday and thursday) 1 tablet adex daily for the past two days.

funkhead wrote: 1 mil twice a week (monday and thursday) 1 tablet adex daily for the past two days.

Sorry bru, I'm confused.. You mean 1ml? And of what? (Monday and Thursday)

I tab of Arimidex is 1mg. Cut the tab in half with a pill cutter [half will be 0.5mg] and take half E.O.D, if you start having any Gyno issues report back and we can advise accordingly.

It's always best to get the Anastrozole, liquid solution by LP. Better for dosage control.

1ml of Supertest every Monday and Thursday... and 1 adex tab daily. Should I cut it in half?

The adex tab I mean... should I only take half E.O.D?

Shouldn't you ask about what dose to take BEFORE you start taking a drug and not two weeks in? :blink:

a 1/2 tab EOD should be fine.

Muscleaddict wrote: Shouldn't you ask about what dose to take BEFORE you start taking a drug and not two weeks in? :blink:

scary :blink:

Hi muscle addict and oupa... I did ask my doctor but I am just looking for a second opinion with people who actually have experience with gear that's all. I would never just put things in my body without knowing. Hence why I am trying to better educate myself.