AlexRon's Beginner Bulking Cyle

Thanks T for the info

With regards to bulking diet, what works best here, im in two minds here and not sure at all,

Eat all you want, what you want approach
or
Eat 500cal above maint and eat as clean as possible

What works best here?

Also, how long does it take for either Dbols or Test C to start working?

Morning All

Ive been sick since Monday night in bed with a cold or virus, symptoms are aches and pains in all my joints with a fever.

Today I feel a bit better but now my chest feels all full of phlegm, I stopped taking my dbols on day 3 - tuesday, today is 13th - day 6 of the course, can I go back onto the Dbols or should I wait till my chest is clear and I feel much better?

I have however had my second pin last night of TestC

Your thoughts please

I'm
not an expert, have only done a few cycles, but I stop taking AS if I
cant train due to illness...pick it up where I stopped when I'm well
enough to train again

Iam gona start the same cycle in a few weeks.
Not gona front load.
12weeks test cyp.

All the best AlexRon

AlexRon wrote: Morning All

Ive been sick since Monday night in bed with a cold or virus, symptoms are aches and pains in all my joints with a fever.

Today I feel a bit better but now my chest feels all full of phlegm, I stopped taking my dbols on day 3 - tuesday, today is 13th - day 6 of the course, can I go back onto the Dbols or should I wait till my chest is clear and I feel much better?

I have however had my second pin last night of TestC

Your thoughts please

If you not training then I would assume stay off the dbol but keep on with the test. To keep the body anabolic. This will help get the nutrition in that you need while sick.

Morning All

Want to ask if its possible for test to amplify the effects or symptoms when being sick

Its now been 3 weeks since my last pin and dbols, I stopped every thing a few days before the Doc said I have influenza and almost landed up in hospital..

Im seeing the doc again today, a week since I finished my antibiotic course as im still not well, the biggest thing with this flu for me is the muscle and joint pain, unless I take some myprodols, im in pain every hour of the day...

Im the type to never get sick, last time I was sick was about 6 years back, so I was very shocked to have caught this.

Thoughts please?

Thanks

Bad idea, IMO, you can stop the dbol but not the testosterone.
You should still be injecting but dont lift until you have not had fever for at least 48hrs, keep hydrated and eat very lean, you will bounce back up very quick. You will drop a few kilos but lean out nice if you diet is clean. By stopping the test for 3 weeks you are really messing with your hormones.

Thanks for the reply Fillet, I thought it could be the test that was causing the issue, got sick 3 days after my 1st pin, the doc says flu but I was unsure as I never told him that my epididymis felt hard like cement, based on this extra symptom, I wasn't sure it was flu or the test so I stopped the test

I will pin tonight, would have been tomorrow night and my next pin would have been Monday night, ill pin sunday night then

Diet is clean yes

Wont the test and a new course of antibiotics be a problem, seeing the doc today at 5, also not sure if I should tell him im on a course, never told him last time either

I dont recommend you stop your test cycle while ill. You can drop the orals. This is the first year in many that i have also had the flu, but my cycle continued and i recovered within a week. Sleep & eat and eat & sleep works wonders for recovery.

My training program has changed completely and I will be using Pro-V-Guard from this week onwards to prevent this "flu" shit. High intensity & winter don't go hand in hand..

AlexRon wrote: Thanks for the reply Fillet, I thought it could be the test that was causing the issue, got sick 3 days after my 1st pin, the doc says flu but I was unsure as I never told him that my epididymis felt hard like cement, based on this extra symptom, I wasn't sure it was flu or the test so I stopped the test

I will pin tonight, would have been tomorrow night and my next pin would have been Monday night, ill pin sunday night then

Diet is clean yes

Wont the test and a new course of antibiotics be a problem, seeing the doc today at 5, also not sure if I should tell him im on a course, never told him last time either

What meds did he prescribe ?

Thanks Oupa for the reply, this flu is kak I agree

I am seeing him at 5pm today, previous meds was wide range of antibiotics if I recall, think the name was moxypen, but I may be wrong on this, sorry cant recall

AlexRon wrote: Thanks Oupa for the reply, this flu is kak I agree

I am seeing him at 5pm today, previous meds was wide range of antibiotics if I recall, think the name was moxypen, but I may be wrong on this, sorry cant recall

That's a very week antibiotic. My kids take that.

Ive been sick for 3 weeks now, man down style, get home and get into bed cause the pain in my joints is hectic, living on 4-6 myprodols per day to keep the pain at bay, wake in the morning in pain

All this time thinking its the test in my system

Alex, get booked off and stay in bed. You have to rest and sleep. No use being on medication and moving about.

Ill check with the Doc Oupa, I was off for 2.5 days unpaid leave then went to the Doc and he booked me off for 4 days and then I returned to work, I doubt for a sec that my Boss will let me off another day, not a chance

No idea what the laws say about any of this...

Maybe the Doc must just give me something stronger or "order" more time off, not sure

Thanks for the reply

In total ive had about 12 days bed rest already with weekends

AlexRon wrote: In total ive had about 12 days bed rest already with weekends

Ok well this sounds like there is another underlying issue...

Apologies but this is why I asked if test could boost the symptoms of a flu by any chance or maybe the test stopped the antibiotics from working??

No it can't. But our testosterone levels do have an impact on our immune system. When you start taking high doses of exogenous testosterone your immune system is weakened so you are more susceptible to colds and flu. But your body and immune system do adjust quite quickly so your immune system won't be significantly weaker through your entire cycle. Nandrolone on the other hand is known to strengthen one's immune system.

So if you get sick in the first few weeks of your cycle just ride it out because by stopping your test shots you will just feel worse and once you're sick changing lowering your dose won't make a difference.

AlexRon wrote: Ill check with the Doc Oupa, I was off for 2.5 days unpaid leave then went to the Doc and he booked me off for 4 days and then I returned to work, I doubt for a sec that my Boss will let me off another day, not a chance

No idea what the laws say about any of this...

Maybe the Doc must just give me something stronger or "order" more time off, not sure

Thanks for the reply

You get 30 days sick leave in a cycle of 3 years. The employer must manage the sick leave. In the first 6 months of employment you get 1 day sick leave for every 26 days worked. The employer is to receive your sick certificate and decide whether to accept it or not. In your case this is a first time which from your side looks good and remind your boss of this. If your boss doesn't grant you sick leave ask your doc to directly email him your sick certificate. Do your best to persuade your boss it is in his best interest to grant your leave. For example if you are contagious then what if your whole office gets sick? It is not wise to risk the entire business for one employee's week's work. The legal route must be the last thing on your mind, and don't file a grievance as you might as well look for a new job.

Thanks for the clarity Pyro, however the Doc did not book me off.

The Doc said that he guesses the virus was not killed off... and prescribed me:

Sandoz-co-Amoxyc1000
Panamor SR 100mg

For those of you that may know the above meds, are we still go for a pin tonight? Never did my pin last night.

Looked up my meds and all looks good from what I can see

Wife gave me my shot last night, when she pulled the needle out, a lot of blood started running out :ohmy: , supplier recons we hit a large vein???

Is it ok to have test directly in your blood stream?

Always aspirate before you inject!
It may have been needle movement once inside, what area did you inject?

What she thought was the top quarter of the ass cheek after splitting into four, maybe she was a bit too low