Beginner lean mass basic cycle & dieet

Goodmorning guys , im considering doing a lean maas cycle and need your feed back and advice please ,ive been gyming and doin weights on & the past 3 yrs but do some cardio everyday for about 30 mins my stats -

Age. : 44
Length : 1,99 m
Weight. : 115 kg
Bf % 14,75 overall allthough my core area is 17,25 %
My goal is to be lean muscle and some strenth to start off with and maybe later do more advance cycles , my main problem currently is my time frame , I work abroad in the offshore industry and useally only have 2-3 weeks off but because i want to do the beginner cycle Im gonna take a 6-8 week break giving the time availible this is the cycle I had in mind

Primo 200
Proviron 20
Anavar

PCT
Clomid
Novaldex

Days 1-14 Primo 200 every 4 days at 300mg
Days 14-42 Primo 200 every 4 days at 400mg

Days 1--14 Proviron everyday at 60 mg
Days 14-end Proviron at 80 mg
42-end Anavar at 80 mg

PCT TO start 30 days after last injection
1-14 clomid at 2x50mg
15-30 novaldex at 20 mg
also to help with the fat burning im doing FFF thru the whole cycle
I drink essensiales , milk thisle and multi vits everyday allready so no strain on the liver to much

My dieet is in tact ,
My excersise routine would be
15-20 mins cardio in the morning on empty stomach
Weight training and 15 mun cardio afterwards in the afternoon on a cycle of 3 days on 1 off on my of day would also be a cheat day and some extra carb loading day

After 6 weeks im might head out again and dnt want any injectables with me flying out thats why i swapping the Promo 200 with anavars and to help with cutting

Oky thats basic it so now Ill take the beating from you THANKS for a great forum ,

OH I FORGOT TO ADD - after some " expert" advice ive have started on a cycle about 3 mnths ago but then I joined the forum and read that its a very bad cycle an stopped it after a week its was a oral cycle off Anavar , Winnys and clens

haha u sitting with a boep which means u need to check your diet ...I havent used Primo yet but have heard that the leaner u are the better ...also I dont understand why u are going to start at 600mg a week then jump to 800mg a week choose either or and I think Primo needs to be run longer than six weeks to see results ...actually go read the articles sect above on the length to run Primo .....Primo is expensive so u want to do properly ..otherwise look at test prop and Anavar for 6 weeks...

Your Proviron dose is unnecessarily high imho. I reckon 20mg morning and night is sufficient. This is your "golden cycle".
More importantly though. At 44 have you had a full medical including PSA? Proviron is contra-indicated in prostate cancer so you want to make sure your PSA isn't elevated.
You are running the "Rolls-Royce" compounds which come at a premium. You have to make sure your diet, training and supplementation is 100% on bad days and 150% on good days.
As for the rest of the dosages the experts will advise correctly.

Your reply went to another post???? ...Tweak that diet and use 3f then cycle ...Primo for at least 10 to 15 weeks Anavar in the bridge yes but again if your diet isnt at a calorie deficit then u will be disapointed ....Prov u can run right through ...
As for the cancer thing Cyclo any steriod will increase your PSA its a side effect ...or is there something special about Prov that I havent heard ?

Yip Mike replied to the wrong post , clumpsy old thumbs , will tweak the weight of the foods to lees cal and i read that i Promo shouldnbe for at least 12-15 weeks , I just thougth given my time frame I could like give the cycle a "boost" , cant I still use the Primo for 6 weeks and then switch to the oral for the rest of the cycle , as for the bf thats why i wanna run the 3F through out and also doing 2 cardio sessions per day , just asking Thx

PS: Admin now I can all of a sudden reply via Tapatalk

I dont think that will work ..the oral is much weaker than injec ...maybe somebody with Primo experiance has a answer .....Boss ..Oups..MA ?

My dieet will just need to workout the exact amounts :

Meal 1
Oats + Honey+cranberries+almond flakes
6 eggs ( 4 whites , 2 whole)
Meal 2
Oats+ whey
Meal 3
Lean protein ( chick breast , lean beef,tuna/fish,ostrich)
Veg
Brown rice /whole wheat pasta
Meal 4
Whey protein+peanutbutter
Meal 5
Lean protein
Salad
Meal 6
6 eggs ( 4 whites ,2 whole)
tomato, onions & mushrooms
Meal 7
Whey
Dnt drink softdrinks or juice , am sort of addicted to coffe hahaha

Basically u want to stay away from sugar and to many starchy carbs when cutting..so a slow release carb like oats and raisons before training and PWO after the whey shake u eat a complete meal containing carb like rice / potatoe the rest protein and green veg / salad
work out your maintence calories and subtract 500 cal ..check the diet stickies ...Keto diet

Koffee 5 to 7 cups a day good for fatloss energy prostate and antioxagidant

Sorry , PWO....? , my morning cardio session is on empty stomach and my afternoom session after meal 4 , im also thinking of cutting out meal 6 currently to less the cal intake

Coffee is about 7 a day but with milk and sweetner but busy cutting out the milk aswell

PWO = post work out meal

How does this look then for my dieeet with excersising

06:30- Cardio 20-25 mins
07:30- Oats + Honey + 4 egg whites & 2 whole eggs
10:00- 4 egg whites + 2 whites scrambled with tomato , onion & mushroom
12:30-lean protein ( chick breast , lean beef , tuna/fish ,ostrich) + veg ( brocoli carrots ect )
15:00- oats+ honey+rasins/cranberries+ almond flakes
15:30-weight + cardio
17:30 - lean protein + veg & brown rice
20:00 whey + peanut butter

yep if u have worked out your maintenance and cut 500 cal ..dont forget the whey after workout ...

mike123 wrote: I dont think that will work ..the oral is much weaker than injec ...maybe somebody with Primo experiance has a answer .....Boss ..Oups..MA ?

JimmyD read the link below for info about Oral vs Inj Primo.

Primo

Mike can i have the whey with my meal @ 17:30 , thx Oupa gonna read it

U need the whey straight after Gym not longer than a half hour and the meal within a hour after gym ...the idea is to feed the muscle with liquid protein before the muscle start going catabolic and then a meal to replenish ....

Well that's a sticky one mike123.
If it's whey hydrosolate then yes immediately after training but if not then wait about 25 mins as GH levels are at their highest and ANY carb or simple sugar will kill it.

If I am wrong please let me know. Lekker

Oky so my argument to " boost" the oral use of primo after 6 weeks by frontloading with Promo 200 not gonna work the best would be to go with the 200 for 12 weeks twice a week , can I bridge with either anavar or winnys till pct seeing ive got them in stock allready , and with my dieet & workout , if i only do my 2nd session between 18:00-19:00 can i still have the brown rice ect afterwards

Yes and Yes and yes

A pure whey shake within a half hour after workout otherwise u will start eating yourself ...T style

which would be the best option for brigde with Anavar or Winnys

The Anavar u can bridge for 6 to 8 weeks if u want ...Winny around 5 weeks some complain of joint issues with winny I prefer Anavar at 60mg

Good evening Guys , after a long time and lots of up and down and hard work I eventually got going and started my cycle yesterday and would just like to here if im on track
- 100mg Primo 3 times a week
- 40mg Proviro ED
- Anavar for bridge
Pct
- Clomid & Novaldex as discussed
My other question do I need to run a Test with this cycle , a mate of mine suggested that I do Tren or Prob along with this
My goal is a lean mass and hardening the muscle again
Current stats
Age 45
Length 1,98
Weight 109kg
Esstimated BF % 12-13 %
Training 5 days a week , Morning weights and afternoon Cardio
Thanks for a great forum

I would definitely add test but stay away from Tren and slap your mates mother for raising an idiot.