2nd Cycle Tren Stack

HI all I am new to this from I just want some advice I did my first cycle deca, dbols and a super test saw gr8 results but only used for 5 weeks I now it was stupid as hell, but kept my gains so.

But now I seen my friend use tren with deca, sus and dbol and he looks pretty good. So wanna before I buy anything know is it a good cycle and wana make sure What the best PCT for that had a look at the PCT page but wana here from you guys with experience.

Any advice or help ? its winter and want put on nice gains and keep most of it, I know you cant keep everything but yea want best result.

Welcome Wix101

Bro, what are your stats? age, weight, height, BF, training history, diet etc..
Pity about your first cycle.. As we say: your 'golden cycle' you totally wasted your time and cash on that one bro, only running it for 5 weeks, why?

Your buds cycle of Tren and Deca... Is crap! That is not a cycle. Who ever advised him.. Go knock him out!

Bro, spend all the time you have reading the articles section on here this site.

My initial advice to you is: Train, Eat Clean, sleep.. Repeat.. Train harder, eat cleaner, sleep longer, repeat > grow!

But yeah, let's see what your stats are....

Your friend is out of his trolley to use Tren and Nandrolone together! That is asking for gyno! Tell him this before it is too late. Once gyno has taken residence there is nothing you can do except a very painful and costly operation.

I personally use tren and deca together just fine.

Granted deca and test are my base and has been in my blood for over a year now so any sides whatsoever have been controlled

IMO Tren ace used in short 4 week bursts can do some good regardless if deca is in the blood but again it has to be part of the goal of the blast.

I wouldn't recommend starting them together especially if one is new to nandrolone as the sides might be a bit too much to handle

Either way if you can get some caber and control estro you'll be fine and know your response to testosterone, that always helps.

So, you use them together as long as you don't start them together, because then sides will be too hectic?

admin wrote: So, you use them together as long as you don't start them together, because then sides will be too hectic?

Yeah if someone hasn't used either compound before I don't think its smart to start them at the same time. Tren by itself is no joke and coupled with a newbie to deca they going to be a mood-swinging-mess.

I'd personally say test & deca first to establish response to sides and if that's handled, sure bring tren in.

I mean some people suffer just on test alone, basic 500mg cookie cutter they bloat like an estro-beached whale.

Get the base established and diet/training to match then use the exotic compounds.

I think that's where the problem comes in with the theory that cycling with x 2 19nor compounds is bad. No base established, too quick to the hardcore stuff, not understanding individual compound sides and benefits on a personal level. I mean jesus look at pro cycles at easily 6+ grams and that's excluding t3/slin/peps/stims/hgh/seo

You make no sense... I read both your posts above ten times and I still don't understand why you think Tren and Deca is not a bad idea together. Bro science can be a dangerous thing...

Vanilla_Gorilla wrote: Either way if you can get some caber and control estro you'll be fine and know your response to testosterone, that always helps.

Don't you mean Cabaser to control rising Prolactine, bru?

@ vanilla gorilla

NO personally attack here but I honestly think you need to rethink the way and type of advice you give.
This guy is new to the world of aas and needs help and input to keep him on the right track and not send him down a path of ass abuse.

just because I can run 2g sust with 2g Deca and no Ai, I'm not going to advice or tell a newbie to do so. Look at what his doing and what he wants and help according to that and his experience level. Regardless if you can do a cycle a certain way and get away with it.

Hey look guys I'm not here to say I'm right or this is wrong, there's many methods to apply

Sure the cycles provided on this board are top notch and you guys use PCT, which has its place but there's way more advanced protocols to recovery than coming off completely. Different goals and different choices

Im not sure why you don't understand my post tren and deca can be run together just fine.

All I'm saying is sure go for it, but if a person has never used either before, then start one and bring in the other later. Makes logical sense to me to gauge sides and milk progress as much as possible before using too many compounds at once straight out the gate. I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand other than the assumption you have a time limit eg. coming off after x many weeks.

OP is asking for pct advise and if tren and deca can be run together. I answered.

Oh and as for RonTheSaveg yes cabaser if you want to type out the entire word, for prolactin, and something else to control estro for OP. Two different things.

Vanilla_Gorilla wrote: Hey look guys I'm not here to say I'm right or this is wrong, there's many methods to apply

Sure the cycles provided on this board are top notch and you guys use PCT, which has its place but there's way more advanced protocols to recovery than coming off completely. Different goals and different choices

Im not sure why you don't understand my post tren and deca can be run together just fine.

All I'm saying is sure go for it, but if a person has never used either before, then start one and bring in the other later. Makes logical sense to me to gauge sides and milk progress as much as possible before using too many compounds at once straight out the gate. I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand other than the assumption you have a time limit eg. coming off after x many weeks.

OP is asking for pct advise and if tren and deca can be run together. I answered.

Oh and as for RonTheSaveg yes cabaser if you want to type out the entire word, for prolactin, and something else to control estro for OP. Two different things.

I take it you blast and cruise?

Vanilla_Gorilla wrote: You guys use PCT, which has its place but there's way more advanced protocols to recovery than coming off completely.

I'd love you to tell us how you recover without coming off? Not everybody is ok with having to be on TRT for the rest of their lives or being infertile. If you are, then by all means, blast and cruise away but lets hear these advanced recovery protocols.

Another pct approach if one wants to get back to cycle quick

granted not for newbies or lack of ass foundation

clomid + nolva works for layering out cycles across a yearly plan if someone wishes to make full recovery and not be on trt

this pct would not be completely 'off' but gives body a break, especially adrenals with constant elevated stress being on aas

2 months:
1 triptorelin 100mcg one shot intra muscular
60 days 50ui ostarine morning oral
peg mgf 200mcg off gym days only

Vanilla Gorilla, that's complete nonsense.

Triptorelin has it's place but it is no wonder drug. That protocol is not going to do anything with one 100mcg shot . You'll feel great initially from the triptorelin but not for long. Besides, triptorelin can make you permanently hypogonadol if used incorrectly.