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Thanks MA

Great got all the info I need and I have placed my order now I just need to go rebond my house. lol .Just one more question should I take 1ml equipoise and 1ml test in one syringe and take a 2ml shot in the left quad on a Monday and then in the right quad in a Thursday or should I take the test shot 1ml in the right quad and the equipoise shot also 1 ml in the left quad on a Monday and Thursday? So in essence in the first option I will be doing 2 shots a week whereas in the 2nd option I will be taking 2 shots on a Monday and 2 shots on a Thursday leaving me with 4 shots a week please note I know the glut is the best place to take the shot but I do it by myself and its difficult to pin in the glut if your doing it on your own buddy please also bear in mind I an quite new to pinning.
And should I take the HCG in the bottom of my abdomen 2 inches from my belly button or is it ok to take it under the skin in the quad area too?

The waiting time for EQ is 50 days and for Test-En only 30 days. So run the Test-En for 20 longer than EQ. This way the compounds clear at the same time and you have test in your system during your entire bridge. Do not use Winstrol for longer than 5 weeks it is highly toxic to the liver.

vvictor wrote: Great got all the info I need and I have placed my order now I just need to go rebond my house. lol .Just one more question should I take 1ml equipoise and 1ml test in one syringe and take a 2ml shot in the left quad on a Monday and then in the right quad in a Thursday or should I take the test shot 1ml in the right quad and the equipoise shot also 1 ml in the left quad on a Monday and Thursday? So in essence in the first option I will be doing 2 shots a week whereas in the 2nd option I will be taking 2 shots on a Monday and 2 shots on a Thursday leaving me with 4 shots a week please note I know the glut is the best place to take the shot but I do it by myself and its difficult to pin in the glut if your doing it on your own buddy please also bear in mind I an quite new to pinning.
And should I take the HCG in the bottom of my abdomen 2 inches from my belly button or is it ok to take it under the skin in the quad area too?

Option 1 - hundreds
I would keep the HCG to the ab area, i work on around an inch around my belly so you have plenty place to pin. Its painless if you do it right.

thank you for the info buddy,
Just wanted to know the needles I use for taking the shot`s of test and equpoise, can I use a 23 gage 1 inch needle to take the shot?
I think they are black needles

Week 1-15 (Main course)
Monday
1ml equipoise 250mg
1ml test E 250 mg
20mg aromasin
250mg hgc
Thursday
1ml equipoise 250mg
1ml test E 250 mg
20mg aromasin
250mg hgc

Week 16- 23(Bridge cycle)
Monday
20mg aromasin
250mg hgc
Thursday
20mg aromasin
250mg hgc
Everyday
50mg winistrol

Week 16-19
Monday
1ml test E 250 mg
Thursday
1ml test E 250 mg


Week 24-29 (Pct cycle)
Week 1
100mg clomide daily
Week 2-5
20mg nolvadex a day
20mg aromasin day

vvictor wrote: thank you for the info buddy,
Just wanted to know the needles I use for taking the shot`s of test and equpoise, can I use a 23 gage 1 inch needle to take the shot?
I think they are black needles

Yes that´s fine for you.

Cycle looks good. Tip: Break the winstrol tabs in half and take them every 12 hours for more stable blood plasma levels. Tip: HCG at 250iu twice a week.

You have to buy two bottles of HCG to run it during cycle. Start week 4 and run it until PCT, then run the remainder from week 2 of PCT until finished.

Thank you for all the help, Just wanted to know from you as you have probabaly run a few cycles and helped a lot of new guys like me if this cycle looks soild for you with a diet of 350g protien 350g carbs and 90g fats at 3700 Kcal a day to go with it bearing in mind I am 41 and my weight is around 90kg with 12 or percent bodyfat.I am also running a 5 day split program. 3 days on 1 day off 2 days on 1 day off a week

If everything you do is smart and optimal, and you devote yourself to this, then there is no reason that you can´t gain and keep 15kg of lean muscle. If you were one of mine I would tell you that you should aim for 20kg. You are only limited by your mind, thoughts and attitute!

Gain and most importantly keep 15 to 20kg of muscle off a cycle... Sorry but if that was the case we'd all be pro in 2 cycles.

Being a pro is a brickhouse more than having a lot of muscle my friend. I know not many of you will agree and you have your right to your opinion as do I mine. Like my opinion (or don´t) it makes no difference to me. You are always welcome to ask me why I say the things I do.

Pyroclasm wrote: If everything you do is smart and optimal, and you devote yourself to this, then there is no reason that you can´t gain and keep 15kg of lean muscle. If you were one of mine I would tell you that you should aim for 20kg. You are only limited by your mind, thoughts and attitute!

:huh: 20kg lean muscle.... ??

I think so yes Oupa. Tell them that 20kg is possible and they will get to 15kg. The ones with the warrior genetics can actually get there. Shoot for the stars, if you miss then you will land on the moon.

Thank you buddy I agree I will get 15kg easy on the course I can even get 25kg I pick up weight like no one els I know but then I can eat like no one I know too that is why I have restircted my diet to 3700Kcal a day and 350g protien 350g carbs and 90g fats , Now if I do a naturial bulk and I add 15kg it takes me about 3 months but I go up from say 80kg at about 6% bosy fat to about 95kg but then I am at about 16% body fat so even though my body loves a bulking cycle I know that my gains doing a naturial bulk can be broken into the following segments
15kg gain
5 kg water
4 kg mucle gain
6 Kg fat gain

Now before I start my course I will be at 90kg and about 14% body fat, my goal is 96kg and under 10% body fat that is sold for a guy over 40 and only 176 cm tall, and I have small joints so at 96kg i look big buddy, this is the weight I get up to every year but saying that I look great in a T shirt at this weight but I would like to look like I do when I am at 80kg but at 96kg that is my aim.

Hence I have chosen the drugs I have for the course as none of them really have that much water retention exceot for the test and they also help a lot with joint pain, and that is also why my diet is very modrit for a drug bulking cycle, if I were going just for size and no quality I would go for 350g protien 700g carbs and 120g fats and eat 5500Kcal a day.

Great that you know your body so well. I don´t like gaining fat while on a bulk I feel 3kg fat gain max is allowed and should be killed during the bridge. You do gain quite some water too but that is very good for muscle building. Muscle is at the end of the day mostly water. Post your diet let me lend an eye.

One more thing guys I am battling to get any aromasin at a resonable price up here in Gauteng so could I swop it with aramidex ?
I can get aromasin but for 3 boxes of the stuff I am looking at more than xxx and that is a bit stiff.

No price discussions.

Yes you can swop aromasin for adex.

Hi there buddy this is what I eat and I take. a calcium vita E ,C and D suplements as well as salom oil and 7g of creatien monohydrate a day ,

Meal Time Ingredients
Breakfast 06:00 2 full eggs ,4 egg whites 75g oats 10g cocoa powder and some stevia all mixed together and cooked comes out like chocolate flavoured oats quite good to chow
44g Protein 57g carbs and 19g fats 550 Kcal

First break 09:00 2 full eggs ,4 egg whites 75g oats 10g cocoa powder and some stevia all mixed together and cooked comes out like chocolate flavoured oats quite good to chow and 6 wilson toffies
44g protein 93g carbs 19 fats 690 Kcal

Lunch 12:30 200g chicken breast , 250g mixed veg and 50g lentils
60g protein 47g carbs and 6g fats 485 Kcal

Second break 15:00 1 can tuna, ½ tub low fat cottage cheese and 50g lentils
54g Protein 35g carbs 5g fats 410Kcal

Dinner 19:00 200g Steak , 300g broccoli, 50g lentils
65g protein 50g carbs 15g fats 561 Kcals

Before bed 21:30 2 full eggs ,4 egg whites 75g oats 10g cocoa powder
44g Protein 57g carbs and 19g fats 550 Kcal

Midnight snack 00;30 1 cup of holoix and a 200g chicken breast
54g protein 28 g carbs 16g fats 471Kcal

Daily totals 365g protein 367g carbs 99g fats 3717 Kcal

Thank you for the info I will do that then , I know we not allowed to mention price that is why a just put a round figuer down sorry about that I thought it would be ok .

How much sugar? Fibre? When do you train and how do you eat around workout times? Are you a school teacher?

Hey there here are my carb breakdowns

367g carbs
77g sugar
GI load 161g
overall Gi index 44

I train at 07;00 to 08;30am
My first meal breakfast i have at 06;30 or so about 30 to 40min befor I hit the gym
then I have my 09;00am meal after I trained that is why I have about 35g of sugar whic is about 6 wlsons toffies the black ones I like them I know about spiking your sugar to increase your insulan and feed get the gy
lycogen back into the muscel I dont like dextros or anything like that buddy I really dont like suplements as in my years of experiance with they they do nothing but waste my money so i reather stick to real food for everything including spiking my sugar for the insulan increas.

Macros 40 min before I train in the morning
44g Protein 57g carbs and 19g fats 550 Kcal
2g sugar GI index 54 Gi load 31g

Marcos after I have trained about 30min after my workout
44g protein 93g carbs 19 fats 690 Kcal
37g sugar GI inex 59 GI load 55g
This one mael contains about 40% of my complete daily sugars (daily sugars 77g)

This is not a problem and I fully believe in whole foods versus crappy powder. I thought that you might be taking the toffees post workout. You need to eat your post workout meal directly after gym not wait 30 mins. I would advise you to double your post workout meal and if you can eat like you say then quadruple it. As much food as possible directly after your workout! Overall your diet is decent. I would encourage you to get some more variety of foods in there. At least three varieties for each macro but the more the better. Carbs for example you can add some basmati rice and sweet potato they taste great and are easy to make in bulk.

I don´t understand your midnight snack?

Ye like Pyro said Sweet potatoes are the business. I've been buying the frozen chunks lately, they have no additives and you don't need to peel or chop them. Just weigh the pieces boil and mash.

Buddy the midnight snack is high in clacuim this helps me sleep well, as well as if I wait from say 21:30 to 06:30 it is almost 9 hours without eating anything I dont like that idea hey, I like to have something in my tummy every 3 hours if I dont have my midnight snack I lay there for hours trying to get to sleep but as soon as I have had something I am off to lala land again, and I agree with you guys about the sweet potato and it is a very good source of carbs but it does not have narly the vitiam and espicially the miniral content of lentles , lentils are also the lowes GI carb you get its about 30 on the GI scale comapred to 50 or so for sweet potato it also has way more protien in it then any outher carb out there, and more fibre too, it is also super high in zink hence you dont need any ZMA suplement and it does not contain any sugar at all,