Fat loss cycle (clen,t3,winni,yohimbine)

Hi guys,

I would like to get some advice on a weight loss cycle and obviously the best one for fat loss and no bulking.

At the moment I'm 92kg and lost 5kg already by correcting my diet. It went to peaces with my studies and also my training. I'm more into endurance sports. My weight was 73kg. Skinny as hell for someone 1.87m long! But that's what I need for endurance sport but with my studies I stopped sports because of time to concentrate on studies.
After my studies I would like to compete in edurance sport again hence the idea of no bulking and only fat loss. My goal is to reach 80kg just for now atleast.

My training at the moment:
In short I never even went to a gym but started to gym because I can do it at night after class. I make sure of it to go to the gym atleast 4 times a week with a extra session of 15min running but planning on upping this when taking these chemicals. Did a month of building and 2 months of cutting.

What I would like to know from you guys that are more informed on cycles is what is the best cycle? I've done lots of reading (so I know the risk of steroids) and saw that clen and T3 is the best with winni so that you don't loose any muscle. Is there any way to combine it with yohimbine? Or is it a bad idea? Also can you guys help me with the dosages? I don't always trust everything I read. And is it worth taking something like ketotifen for the clen?

I would like to do this perfectly to get the best results!

Thank you in advance

Once your testicles have been shut down by the winstrol, where will your body get testosterone from to function normal ?

Do you meen I must make use of testosterone in the same cycle and then PCT's?

You only need discipline to loose fat

Really the only time people should use chemicals like Clen etc is when prepping for comp to get the last couple percentage of BF right down to bare minimum.
Don't get me wrong it will help but why go that route when food can do the same thing as well as a good programme etc. Just little things like no sugars, no fizzy drinks, eating every 3 hours and drinking loads of water and ONLY water can do so much for fat loss. Anyways that's my 2 cents.

I've been doing this, except for the drinking of water, I really struggle drinking water, I am a cyclist and sit on the damn saddle for hours a week, but the weight doesn't come down, been using over the counter supplements, and my knowledge of nutrients are shaky, I started eating allot of fruit so I dont get so hungry at meal times, but now I read that some fruits are bad for weight loss as well

Water is a big one.....Funny enough the more you drink the better it gets. Lol trust me I hated water but now I drink about 6L a day.

mr.E wrote: I've been doing this, except for the drinking of water, I really struggle drinking water, I am a cyclist and sit on the damn saddle for hours a week, but the weight doesn't come down, been using over the counter supplements, and my knowledge of nutrients are shaky, I started eating allot of fruit so I dont get so hungry at meal times, but now I read that some fruits are bad for weight loss as well

Get a body fat percentage done by a pro that uses calipers. Then you will have a starting point as well as the distribution of fat around the body.

Then what cycling? Are you cycling on a flat Road slowly or are you hitting hills, sprints mixing it up etc etc.

Do you use a HR monitor and cycle log? My mates that cycle have these fancy garmin goodies that use gps and links with their HR monitors and gives them a complete profile of calories burnt, intensity etc. They all look like racing snakes.

Lastly, your diet. That is most probably where your achilles heel is.

CycloTrpTyr wrote:

mr.E wrote: I've been doing this, except for the drinking of water, I really struggle drinking water, I am a cyclist and sit on the damn saddle for hours a week, but the weight doesn't come down, been using over the counter supplements, and my knowledge of nutrients are shaky, I started eating allot of fruit so I dont get so hungry at meal times, but now I read that some fruits are bad for weight loss as well

Get a body fat percentage done by a pro that uses calipers. Then you will have a starting point as well as the distribution of fat around the body.

Then what cycling? Are you cycling on a flat Road slowly or are you hitting hills, sprints mixing it up etc etc.

Do you use a HR monitor and cycle log? My mates that cycle have these fancy garmin goodies that use gps and links with their HR monitors and gives them a complete profile of calories burnt, intensity etc. They all look like racing snakes.

Lastly, your diet. That is most probably where your achilles heel is.

I Do road cycling and Mountain Biking, like doing the endurance stuff, 100km +, doing the Transbaviaans this year which is 240km in 24h, everybody is telling me that the problem must be my diet, I followed the body for life challenge to the T and only picked up weight, the only thing that helped a bit was when I got some liptin injections, will do some more homework regarding meal plans etc, I find it quite funny in that it doesn't matter in what community I ask help, everyone is frowning on using roids, thanks

With that amount if cycling you should be lean.

If your diet is spot on (again only toy would know) then I surmise it is something endocrinological. Thyroid/cortisol or insulin resistance. Check the post on Pyroclasm cycle log. There is some very good info dug up by Muscle Addict. Check right at the end.

www.anabolicsteroids.co.za/forum/4-cycle...log?start=275#165551

It's a start and if you have some compromised endocrine function you definitely DO NOT want to meddle any more with AAS or thyroxine etc.