Cycle Advise and PCT advise Please

Heritage wrote: Thank you Oupa for clearing that up to me.

Any Advice on the T-Bol at the start of the cycle and bridging with Winstrol.
I would like to do the T-Bol upfront for 5 weeks, then start the Winstrol from Week 9 - 10.5
leading up to PCT.

My concerns are firstly, liver toxicity and secondly is two & half weeks Whinny even going to work as bridge?

No problem doing tbol and then a winny bridge. Just take your liver support throughout your cycle and don't drink alcohol on cycle. Winny does start to show visible results in about a week but 2.5 weeks is not enough to see the best of what it has to offer. I assume you only have one bottle? Rather get another bottle and extend to 4 weeks even if it means starting your PCT later.

Thanks MA,

Thats a great idea - much appreciated.

I know should take Milk Thistle two weeks before cycle and during PCT.

How many essentiales should one take while on cycle with T-Bol and Whinny?

Thanks again.

Morn Gents,

Still hitting the clen @ 120mg everyday with betasleep x 2 at night.

Clen is awesome(Besides the fact that I'm grumpy as hell), shredding fat like a madman.
Down another 2 - 3kg.

Bought the essestiales for the cycle yesterday. I'll need 444 (6 ED for 74 days), cost me a small fortune

Can someone please recommend something decent I can use for joint support?

Thanks,

ArthroChoice works very good.

Morning Gents,

Hope all is well.

Quick update and a question.

Body fat down to about 16% (Getting it checked properly tomorrow morning).
Clen is really a great product, wish I had tried it earlier. I'm feeling leaner
and harder then ever before.

Will be starting my cycle soon, this is what I hope to be the finalized cycle.

Week 1 - 5 T-Bol @ 40mg ED (20mg morning / 20 mg evening)
Week 1 - 9 Test Prop @ 450mg P/W (150mg Mon/Wed/Sat)
Week 8 - 11 Winny @ 40mg ED (20mg morning / 20 mg evening)
Week 4 - 11 HGC @ 500UI EW (250ui Mon and Thurs)

Post Cycle (Starts two days after last Winny as Test prop will be out system)
Day 1 - 7 Clomid @ 100mg ED (50mg morning / 50 mg evening)
Day 8, 10 & 12 HGC @ 250UI (Just using up what is left from my 5000ui, no point in wasting)
Day 8 - 37 Kessar @ 20mg ED

I have got some Arimiplex from Axio (Anastrolze 1mg), I would like run as my on cycle AI.
I've never had any gyno issues before(But I've only ever taken Var and Winny - which you not expect to get Gyno from), but as this is my first proper cycle and I'm scared as hell of gyno. So I would like to run the Arimiplex from day 1. Recommeded dosage is 0.25mg EOD. The Arimiplex tabs will be kak hard to dose at 0.25mg, but can easily be broken in half to 0.5mg. Is it a problem if I take 0.5mg EOD?

Thanks guys.

If your running HCG on cycle and bridge leave it out of your pct and just up the dose to 500ius twice a week for the last 2 weeks of your bridge.

Thanks Rhino will do.

Any advise on the arimiplex @ 0.5mg EOD?

If you haven't had Gyno issues before I'd just keep it on hand and start it at .5mg EOD if your nipples start itching. Adex starts working quickly.
Otherwise if your set on running it to keep water down and as a precaution try .5mg every 3 days. But then make sure you run it rite up until the start of PCT.

I'm Gyno prone so I always run an AI and still grow like a weed so if you do decide to run adex dont stress that your not going to grow.

Thanks Rhino, much appreciated will run it 0.5mg E3D.

Cool Bud. Enjoy

Sorry Guys,

Everytime I think I have all my ducks in a row, something new pops up.

Pre workout shake:

10g x SSN BCAA'S
2 Scoops x M1R Vortex

Post workout shake:
10g x SSN BCAA'S
2 Scoops x SSN Whey

Should I add glucose powder to the post workout shake? And if so, how many grams?

Thanks again for all the help.

Get food in for pre workout like oats, raisins and whey.
AS for post workout adding any simple sugar with your whey concoction works wonders. But keep in mind to work that into your daily cals? So maybe start at 30-40g and take it from there.

I personally add a bit of complex cards post shake to help carry me till my post workout meal.

Evening All,

Quick update, 1st Test Prop pin on Saturday...2nd pin this morning.

First two pin sites, left and right quads.

PIP: Test Prop into virgin muscle is kak. sore.

Other than that all good, found it easy to inject myself.

Will keep the forum updated.