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08 May 2014 07:22 #167420 by trojanhorse1
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Should I use liver protection like milk thistle when using anavar if so when should I start and finishe

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08 May 2014 07:35 - 08 May 2014 07:36 #167421 by Heritage
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Hi Trojan,

The experts on the site have advised me to use Milk Thistle two weeks before your cycle
as well as during your post cycle, while using liver toxic orals (Including Anavar). While on cycle better to use Essentiale as it does not hinder your gains, and should offer more than enough protection for Anavar.

Hope this helps.
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08 May 2014 09:06 #167431 by Nate40
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Yes I was also told that Essentiale is sufficient for Anavar.
Anavar is also not as harsh on the liver as some of the other orals.

Not sure how old you are Trojan but Anavar was also recommended for guys that arent spring chickens anymore.

I am taking 60mg of anavar a day and it has been amazing.

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

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08 May 2014 09:39 #167436 by trojanhorse1
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Iam 44 I starded my cycle already but will be using Var in 4 weeks time so I'll start using essential .what dose please

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08 May 2014 09:44 #167437 by Nate40
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I take one in the morning. Not sure what the forum recommends

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09 May 2014 07:12 #167532 by Heritage
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Hi Guys,

As per a previous post of Pyro's he recommended 2 x Essentiale 3 x P/Day. That was for DBol if I'm not mistaken. But health first, even though anavar is milder - save your liver spend a little more protecting it :)

@ Nate got to up your liver supps bud.
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09 May 2014 08:43 #167543 by Nate40
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Thanks Heritage,

I am not on Tbol, but you right, will up the essentiale.
Just dented financially after the dostinex.

Nate

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24 May 2014 08:45 #169090 by trojanhorse1
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Hi pyro my cycle is going really well strength going up my body weight is still the same but loising body fat and gettit more defined that's why Iam thinking of extending it to 20 weeks depending on your advise also I am confused about the use of liver protection when I start anavar should I use liver protection or not at the moment I also included proviron in my cycle
Started with 25mg ed and now Iam on 50mg ed taken am/pm
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24 May 2014 08:51 #169091 by Rhino
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You should be using liver protection throughout your cycle.

Go big or go home...

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24 May 2014 09:37 #169095 by Pyroclasm
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I need to confirm what your cycle looks like after all the tweaks.

trojanhorse1 wrote: Ok this how my cycle looks like now since I started
Week 1/5 test p 100 eod
Week 1/16test e 250 mg/ml twice per week
Mast e 1/10 300mg/ml twice per week
Mast p 11/ until 15days before pct 150mg/ml eod
Anavar 60mg ed week 14 up pct
Hcg 250iu twice weekly up to pct
Pct will be 2*50mg cloomid*7 days
Then 20mg nolva*30 days


You also added Proviron I think with Anavar at 50mg ED.
What week are you in now? Please tell me some details about how your cycle has gone. Kg of muscle gained? Fat loss? Weight? Calories? Side effects? Most important how close are you to your ultimate physique?

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24 May 2014 13:00 #169123 by trojanhorse1
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Week 13 at the moment if doing 16week cycle will be using anavar around week15
No side affects apart from some spots on my back and chest but nothing major.calories 4000
Body fat dropped and looking more defined once I reduce my calories will look more ripped but I don't know if I put more muscle .

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24 May 2014 13:08 #169125 by Pyroclasm
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My opinion I wouldn't extend the cycle I don't see a good enough reason to. It is already a super long cycle and your nads will have been suppressed for twenty weeks which makes recovery more diffficult. What counts in your favour is the usage of HCG during cycle. What you should keep in mind is that for the first 12 weeks on test we normally see great gains, thereafter you will see less gains and this is the zone of diminished returns. After 15 weeks results slow down more. I wouldn´t extend the cycle unless you needed say a kg or three more to reach your ultimate physique.

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