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27 Oct 2013 16:49 #154978
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Through my illness I learned rejection. I
was written off. That was the moment I
thought, Okay, game on. No prisoners.
Everybody's going down - Lance Armstrong
"Ya gonna eat lightening,and ya gonna shit thunder" - Mickey Goldmill (Rocky II 1979)
First cycle: Igf lr3 + test e for endurance athlete was created by Station
Hello people.I've been reading up on AAS for a couple of years now and have been a lurker on this site for way longer than anyone would be willing to admit.
I've finally decided its time to take my training to the next level.
I'm an endurance athlete (I don't feel comfortable saying exactly what sport because its a small sport where everybody pretty much knows everybody).I've been training for 8 years and I feel like I've hit a plateau and I want to move up a division.
I'm considering taking IGF lr3 first (to develop new muscle cells and possibly cure a couple of old injuries) ,and then Testosterone E (to grow those new muscles and help deepen my training regime).I start this cycle in March/April next year.
My proposed cycle is : week 1-4 IGF l:r3 20mcg/day
week 5-14 Test E 300mg/week and then PCT will start 30 days after the last injection.
That's 10 weeks on Test.
I would prefer to use a Test vial that will allow me to take exactly 1ml to get 300mg.I will use an insulin syringe for the IGF.
My stats are : Age 23 BW 75kg,BF 8%.Squat 88kg,Dead lift 122kg,Bench 40kg.I do 3hours of cardio 5 days a week,HIIT 2 days a week,and weight training 3 days week.
I choose a low dose of Test because I only intend on gaining about 10kg and because I have a couple of nosy buggers who I don't want on my case.
Can I get those gains? Is IGF LR3 readily available in SA ?
I've finally decided its time to take my training to the next level.
I'm an endurance athlete (I don't feel comfortable saying exactly what sport because its a small sport where everybody pretty much knows everybody).I've been training for 8 years and I feel like I've hit a plateau and I want to move up a division.
I'm considering taking IGF lr3 first (to develop new muscle cells and possibly cure a couple of old injuries) ,and then Testosterone E (to grow those new muscles and help deepen my training regime).I start this cycle in March/April next year.
My proposed cycle is : week 1-4 IGF l:r3 20mcg/day
week 5-14 Test E 300mg/week and then PCT will start 30 days after the last injection.
That's 10 weeks on Test.
I would prefer to use a Test vial that will allow me to take exactly 1ml to get 300mg.I will use an insulin syringe for the IGF.
My stats are : Age 23 BW 75kg,BF 8%.Squat 88kg,Dead lift 122kg,Bench 40kg.I do 3hours of cardio 5 days a week,HIIT 2 days a week,and weight training 3 days week.
I choose a low dose of Test because I only intend on gaining about 10kg and because I have a couple of nosy buggers who I don't want on my case.
Can I get those gains? Is IGF LR3 readily available in SA ?
Through my illness I learned rejection. I
was written off. That was the moment I
thought, Okay, game on. No prisoners.
Everybody's going down - Lance Armstrong
"Ya gonna eat lightening,and ya gonna shit thunder" - Mickey Goldmill (Rocky II 1979)
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28 Oct 2013 10:41 #155028
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Dude never used IGF but I think there is a article in the articles section ...as for test E u wont get anywhere near 10 kg on 300mg u need 600 mg a week and being an endurance athlete u will most prob see 4 to 6 kg and remember u need to cycle at least twice a year to maintain your gains ...tell the nosy buggers u using createne and whey....
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28 Oct 2013 23:26 #155091
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On that 600mg thing(Gives me goose bumps just typing that number),my biggest concern are the sides,like BP/acne and the possible sudden bulge that everyone might take note of.How would you suggest I best avoid the nasty effects of the gear?
Through my illness I learned rejection. I
was written off. That was the moment I
thought, Okay, game on. No prisoners.
Everybody's going down - Lance Armstrong
"Ya gonna eat lightening,and ya gonna shit thunder" - Mickey Goldmill (Rocky II 1979)
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lol,they already know I'm on that stuff.But thanks for the reply man.mike123 wrote: ...tell the nosy buggers u using createne and whey....
On that 600mg thing(Gives me goose bumps just typing that number),my biggest concern are the sides,like BP/acne and the possible sudden bulge that everyone might take note of.How would you suggest I best avoid the nasty effects of the gear?
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was written off. That was the moment I
thought, Okay, game on. No prisoners.
Everybody's going down - Lance Armstrong
"Ya gonna eat lightening,and ya gonna shit thunder" - Mickey Goldmill (Rocky II 1979)
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29 Oct 2013 10:39 #155154
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Injec twice a week 1ml ea = 300mg PGW....do u have BP/acne issues a the moment ? U wont become huge overnight U start to see a diff after first vial is finished ...about 5 weeks
if u do 300mg only u might be disapointed 600mg is the sweet spot min side effects ...
if u do 300mg only u might be disapointed 600mg is the sweet spot min side effects ...
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30 Oct 2013 06:26 #155291
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Through my illness I learned rejection. I
was written off. That was the moment I
thought, Okay, game on. No prisoners.
Everybody's going down - Lance Armstrong
"Ya gonna eat lightening,and ya gonna shit thunder" - Mickey Goldmill (Rocky II 1979)
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Ok for some reason,the reply I posted last night doesn't appear on the thread.I hope this one does.
So what if things go wrong midway through the cycle? Can I simply reduce the dose to something like 400mg maybe?
And do recommended u use Nolvadex sparingly during the cycle or should cough up the big bucks for Arimidex?
So what if things go wrong midway through the cycle? Can I simply reduce the dose to something like 400mg maybe?
And do recommended u use Nolvadex sparingly during the cycle or should cough up the big bucks for Arimidex?
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was written off. That was the moment I
thought, Okay, game on. No prisoners.
Everybody's going down - Lance Armstrong
"Ya gonna eat lightening,and ya gonna shit thunder" - Mickey Goldmill (Rocky II 1979)
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30 Oct 2013 10:32 - 30 Oct 2013 10:33 #155305
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"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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Are you gentically prone to acne? If you had acne during your Teens then theres a very good chance you will get it on juice, the severity will depend on you and how bad your acne has been before. Have you had any health problems like High cholesterol or high BP? and are you gentically prone to hairloss? (balding or a receding hairline). By answering those questions we can help determine what sides you will probably get.. there are ways of avoiding certain side effects so dont be scared to death of the sides, alot of the time guys dont experience much sides at all.
"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath
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30 Oct 2013 13:14 #155311
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Dude understand that 500mg of cyp or 600mg of test E is the sweat/safe spot ...if u go over that then the sides normally kick in hecticly...also depends on your system
U will most proberly experiance the same sides on 300 as on 600 give or take...Acne get a antibi from the doc ...balding if u are prone then not much u can do ...if u are not then u are ok...monitor cholesterol take omega 3 if it goes up use cholesaway or simular but this is a side and it will not effect u negatively in a 10 week cycle ...Get letro for gyno start the cycle with 3 drops EOD if u get itchy nips then up to 5 drops ED if it doesnt relieve then 10 to 15 drops ....u are lean so I dont see u going higher than 3 EOD
Finally with anything sh*t happens just ask the guys will help ...I was just as worried with my first and it went by like "whats all the fuss about".....enjoy
U will most proberly experiance the same sides on 300 as on 600 give or take...Acne get a antibi from the doc ...balding if u are prone then not much u can do ...if u are not then u are ok...monitor cholesterol take omega 3 if it goes up use cholesaway or simular but this is a side and it will not effect u negatively in a 10 week cycle ...Get letro for gyno start the cycle with 3 drops EOD if u get itchy nips then up to 5 drops ED if it doesnt relieve then 10 to 15 drops ....u are lean so I dont see u going higher than 3 EOD
Finally with anything sh*t happens just ask the guys will help ...I was just as worried with my first and it went by like "whats all the fuss about".....enjoy
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01 Nov 2013 09:35 #155534
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Through my illness I learned rejection. I
was written off. That was the moment I
thought, Okay, game on. No prisoners.
Everybody's going down - Lance Armstrong
"Ya gonna eat lightening,and ya gonna shit thunder" - Mickey Goldmill (Rocky II 1979)
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Thanks a lot gents.I'll be sure to apply all your advice to the best of my abilities when I start.I'll keep you posted when I do so.
I'm currently self administering weekly Vit b12 injection.Not because I'm deficient,but just to work on my phobia of needles(lol).I'm too weeks in,and im starting to get used to though.
Thanks again for the help. Peace
I'm currently self administering weekly Vit b12 injection.Not because I'm deficient,but just to work on my phobia of needles(lol).I'm too weeks in,and im starting to get used to though.
Thanks again for the help. Peace
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Everybody's going down - Lance Armstrong
"Ya gonna eat lightening,and ya gonna shit thunder" - Mickey Goldmill (Rocky II 1979)
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12 May 2014 21:35 #167896
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How things going I have a similar history to you . Have you noticed gains yet
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