First HGH Cycle Advise and wisdom please.

Ok so I'm going to take the financial plunge and give the HGH route a go. I have a few weeks left on the below cycle:

Week 1-5: Turinabol at 60mg per day. (3 per day)
Week 1-16: Testocyp at 500mg per week. (2ml per week)
Week 1-16: Masteron 150 at 375mg per week. (2.5ml per week)
Week 1-16: Primo at 600mg per week. (3ml per week)
Week 1-18: Adex at 0.25mg eod. (6 drops)
Week 3-16: 2ml of NPP a week

I will be bridging with Prop, Anavar and Proviron (unless you guys have a better plan)

I intend on using the HGH predominantly for its recovery purposes as my training regime is VERY INTENSE. I literally punish my body almost every single day with High Intensity Training. I do a lot of CrossFit based stuff as I see a lot of value in that but I also follow the Wendler 5-3-1 program, some Westside Barbell stuff including numerous other things.

Thinking of becoming a serious CrossFit competitor next year (I know, I know, but I really enjoy it)

So I will be the first to admit that I don't know a vast amount about GH, so some guidance will be greatly appreciated.

I can get my hands on Pharma grade stuff but F@ck me it is too expensive so I'd rather go the ug lab route this time.

Planning on doing 6 months and will extend if I am happy with the results.

1. I am planning on running 5IU a day of underground HGH. Will this be sufficient?
2. I can get my hands on the following: Synthesis HGH 100iu
Syntropin
U-Steroids HGH 100iu

Has anyone used any of these? Any recommendations?
3. Is it ok to pin 5iu everyday for the 6 months +
4. Any specific time to pin?
5. Any other advice or pearls wisdom would be greatly appreciated.

I'd like to order my stock asap and start with it.

Thanks in advance gentlemen

I have never used yet ...but petty u didnt start a month before your cycle ...its ok to pin every day ...some will say 5 on 2 off to spare the pocket a bit ... I am sure M A and others for a lot more to say .....let us know how it goes boet

Pretty please ?

Hey bro I also dont have a clue about HGH but Im intrested in your results from that cycle if you dont mind sharing? looks like the ultimate lean mass cycle! How many cycles had you done before this one?

manery wrote: Hey bro I also dont have a clue about HGH but Im intrested in your results from that cycle if you dont mind sharing? looks like the ultimate lean mass cycle! How many cycles had you done before this one?

Hey bud, don't mind sharing at all. I have been extremely happy with the cycle. To be honest it has been by far the best cycle I have done. In terms of mass I have put on around 6 or 7kg's (quality in my opinion) and dropped about 2%bf. I am sitting around the 8-9% mark at the moment and weigh 101kg. Definitely in the best shape of my life.

This is my 5th cycle but to be honest only my 3rd proper one. It is definitely a cycle that I will do again and I probably would not add or take away anything except maybe HGH depending on the advice I get here and how I respond to HGH.

use the search button Boet ...theres quite a few replies ...by M A

What are you hoping to achieve with the HGH? 5IU of decent chinese generic HGH will speed up recovery and help you get leaner, you'll sleep better and depending on your age you might notice your skin and hair looking healthier and thicker and fine wrinkles going away. Your age is very important when looking at expectations from HGH. A 20 year old produces more than double the HGH than a 40 year old, so older guys will see more lean gains from HGH.

If you're taking it on cycle at 5IU as an average 30 year old you will have improved lean gains but nothing major. Your recomp is where the money is at. If you aren't using steroids with the 5IU a day it will help you keep your gains post cycle but don't expect much noticeable lean gains if any.

If it's very good generic HGH you might still get tingly or numb fingers and hands. Not the most pleasant side effect but at least you know you got decent stuff. You will retain water. Both intra/extramuscular. People respond differently. One guy might gain 0.5KG water weight while someone else gains 2KG water weight.

From those brands I would go with Syntropin otherwise see if you can get hygetropin but beware of fakes. If you aren't sure about a brand don't buy a 6 month supply. Rather buy one box and get a serum HGH test done 3 hours after an injection of 5IU.

Split your dose into 2x a day shots.

Thanks MA,

I am 33 and what I am hoping to get is pretty much what you have stated. Better recovery being the most important and just maintaining some of my gains until my next cycle. If all goes well I will run this for 12 months while squeezing in another cycle like the above.

So I'll be purchasing shortly. Happy days :woohoo:

My first 100iu of HGH has arrived. I would like to start with it tomorrow.

Any advise on the best times to take my shots and should I rotate injection sites often?

Split your daily dose- One when you wake up and one in the afternoon. Wait 30-40 minutes before eating after you inject. Site rotation is not important.

Thanks once again MA you are truly my hero.

I have 3 more questions and then I think I'm good to go.

1 - How long after pinning/starting to use HGH should I expect to experience some sides?

2 - How long after pinning can I eat?

3 - What are usually the most noticeable sides (as I have some doubts about this product)

1) Very dependant on the individual but the most common is probably water retention and tingly hands/fingers which you'd probably notice within 2-3 weeks. Or less.

GH is damn expensive so if you aren't sure, rather get a GH serum blood test done 3 hours after your injection to test if it's legit.

2) Half hour

3) See 1. You might also get a annoying pain in your wrist similar to carpal tunnel but that's usually only at higher doses.

Guys I have been on a combination of Humatrope, U-steroids and Synthesis. As Humatrope is so flippen expensive I decided to add some underground lab stuff into the mix just to make money go further. I have definitely gotten leaner and definitely experienced fantastic recovery including a pretty serious knee injury that was going to render me out for at least a few months that healed in under 2 months. I have been running 5iu a day sometimes split sometimes not, just depending on my day.

Now I don't know if this is due to the quality of humatrope or if the Underground lab stuff played a role too???

Either way, splitting the costs between Pharma and UG has become a economically viable option for me. So here is the question ->

Due to my injury and not training at all for just over 2 months I have pretty much lost all of my size gains from my cycle.

Although I know size gains are minimal on HGH alone I'd like to know what you guys feel is a safe "maximum" dose per day to help put on size without the risk of GH gut? I can probably afford around 12iu a day, maybe 15iu if I keep the "mix" going but is that even worth it? is it too much? or too little?

MA your wisdom will as always be greatly appreciated.

I have a long wait until my next cycle and I am hating life

HGH on it's own, even at high doses, is not going to pack on lean mass comparable to doing a steroid cycle. Sorry bud. The muscle building magic comes with the synergy of HGH and AAS/insulin.

Muscleaddict wrote: HGH on it's own, even at high doses, is not going to pack on lean mass comparable to doing a steroid cycle. Sorry bud. The muscle building magic comes with the synergy of HGH and AAS/insulin.

Thanks as always bro. I thought as much. Just for interest sake though, what is a safe amount of IU a day in your opinion? Safe as in - no GH Gut

The combination of gh , igf & food caused the turtle shell gut.

I know this is an old thread - but I was reading through the article section and I have a question:

Why will better results be seen by pinning every second day and not daily?

steyn wrote: I know this is an old thread - but I was reading through the article section and I have a question:

Why will better results be seen by pinning every second day and not daily?

This is widely debated. The EOD approach is favoured by some due to there probably being more GH receptor downregulation with ED use, as well as desensitisation of other mechanisms involved. There is some data from studies on people (with disorders like acromegaly, GH deficiency or HIV) showing that in theory mimicking a pulsatile release of GH will probably build more muscle than a constant elevation but real world results in bodybuilders who use AAS and insulin with HGH don't match up. There are many ways to skin a cat. Ultimately whatever method gets your IGF1 level the highest is the way to go for the body composition benefits of HGH, and that you can get tested with a simple blood test.

Thank you very much MA.

Another question:

HgH increases the IGF1 levels - if I understand correct, that is the sole or main purposes of HgH.
If this is the case - why not use IGF LR3 only. Does it not do exactly the same thing at a much more cost effective faster acting rate?

steyn wrote: Thank you very much MA.

Another question:

HgH increases the IGF1 levels - if I understand correct, that is the sole or main purposes of HgH.
If this is the case - why not use IGF LR3 only. Does it not do exactly the same thing at a much more cost effective faster acting rate?

No. Most of HGH's effects are mediated by the increase in your IGF1 but not all of them. IGF LR3 is not the same as your endogenous IGF1. HGH increases other growth factors as well (like MGF) that IGF1 LR3 does not and it has fat burning properties that aren't related to the subsequent increase in your IGF1 levels. IGF1 LR3 is good but HGH is tops.

Thank you very much MA.