Test cyp and superdrol cycle

Hi guys!! This is my first post! I've been reading a lot and doing my own research and decided to ask for advice!!
For my first cycle I want to use Test cyp and superdrol like this:

Test cyp : 500mg e/w for 10 weeks
Superdrol: For first 3 weeks 15/30/30

Pct: Tamoxifen at 20/20/20/20

I'm looking for leand and hard gains!
Age:24
Bodyfat: 18%
Weight: 210lbs
Height: 6 ft

I have cycled wiht superdrol before and loved my gains!!!
Any advice is much appreciated!! Thanks in advance!

Bud your username is killing me!! :lol: :silly:

Cycle looks fine. PCT completely shit have a read in the articles section for PCT 2.
Regarding Superdrol, I hope you know what you are doing bud cause that is a scary compound! Not saying you can´t use it, but I would much rather use another oral with much more controlled sides like Dianabol or Turinabol. We had another valued member of this forum do the same for his first cycle. I will find his thread for you quickly..

Hahaha thanks for the reply!!

I thought of clomid and nolva...what do you suggest??

I don't like dbolls as it doesn't give me strenght gains like SD!!

What about this for pct:
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
Clomid : 50/50/50/50

Thanks!

Ive dont this exact cycle before...
Prepare for blood pressure headaches man, superdrol is notorious for BP and lipids...

Ball wrote: Ive dont this exact cycle before...
Prepare for blood pressure headaches man, superdrol is notorious for BP and lipids...

You are right! S-Drol also gives gyno that is very hard to get rid of.

@Jacobstraightup: No it won´t give you the same strength gains as D-Bol but is your aim to be strong or to be healthy? If you decide to use S-Drol (which you might do regardless of what we say) then be sure to get kidney support.

Pyroclasm wrote:

Ball wrote: Ive dont this exact cycle before...
Prepare for blood pressure headaches man, superdrol is notorious for BP and lipids...

You are right! S-Drol also gives gyno that is very hard to get rid of.

@Jacobstraightup: No it won´t give you the same strength gains as D-Bol but is your aim to be strong or to be healthy? If you decide to use S-Drol (which you might do regardless of what we say) then be sure to get kidney support.

Nasty gyno aswell, never shows up on cycle, its always rebound gyno if you did not taper off of the Serm/ai

Hahahah!! Jacob Straightup!! Hahaha

No I asked for advice...I'm seeing your point in saying SD is bad for your health but I seem to handle 30mg of SD a lot better than 30mg of dbols! Yahh...it hits your kidneys hard!! What would you say about maybe adding winny the last four weeks?? At 50mg a day...that is of course with liver support! Haha just to harden up..??

How do you know which one you handle better if this is your first cycle? :huh:

Ball wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote:

Ball wrote: Ive dont this exact cycle before...
Prepare for blood pressure headaches man, superdrol is notorious for BP and lipids...

You are right! S-Drol also gives gyno that is very hard to get rid of.

@Jacobstraightup: No it won´t give you the same strength gains as D-Bol but is your aim to be strong or to be healthy? If you decide to use S-Drol (which you might do regardless of what we say) then be sure to get kidney support.

Nasty gyno aswell, never shows up on cycle, its always rebound gyno if you did not taper off of the Serm/ai

A quote from MuscleAddict one of our moderators on the subject of S-Drol gyno.

Muscleaddict wrote: Gorilla I reckon that gyno is from the Superdrol. Superdrol does not aromatise and is not a progestin but LOTS of guys have gotten lumps from Superdrol and the various clones including myself. Nolvadex and AI's do nothing once the lump is there. Just google Superdrol lump and see how many people have the same issue.

It seems that when Superdrol is broken done it's metabolites are the culprits that have progestagenic activity and somehow cause gyno via prolactin. If you don't get rid of it will always cause you hassles bro. You aren't going to want to fork out cash on dostinex I know but I'd rather be safe than sorry. Gyno doesn't just disappear. Patrick Arnold who created a few prohormones/designer steroids mentioned this about Superdrol and it's metabolites I just can't remember where I read it.

I've done dbol only and superdrol only...and to me that isn't a cycle!! Haha a REAL cycle has test as the base!! And as for the rebound gyno...haven't seen it!! Must be lucky!! Haha

if you only want advice,
i would advise you to plan a better PCT, 20/20/20/20 of nolvadex only on a sd+test cycle wont go down too well,
and ill almost guarantee you rebound gyno if you are remotely prone to it...
Run adex at .25 ED, will help keep some bloat down aswell, might help with BP.
id go with the normal Clomid 100 first week and Nolvadex 40/20/20/10

Thanks a lot for the advice guys!!

Ball: So its clomid the first week with the 40 nolva and then continue on from there??

For any cycle with test I would advise using HCG in addition to Clomid and Nolva. It´s very cheap and it works like a charm! I know people who only use HCG for PCT and they do okay just on that.

JacobRudolf wrote: Thanks a lot for the advice guys!!

Ball: So its clomid the first week with the 40 nolva and then continue on from there??

I usually do the clomid by itself for the first week, then start with 40 nolva and taper down each week

also agree with Pyroclasm, HCG is so inexpensive and easy i wouldnt see why not to use it, makes PCT a little easier...
And you know the old saying, "its better to keep the horse in the barn than chase it across counties later on"

What's the difference between these prohormone like superdrol,superbol, super anadrol etc. Which of these produce the best gain with least sides or are they all as toxic a anapolan

ice-rip wrote: What's the difference between these prohormone like superdrol,superbol, super anadrol etc. Which of these produce the best gain with least sides or are they all as toxic a anapolan

None of those mentioned above are pro hormones, they are designer steroids, they are not precursors, they are already in their desired form...

From what ive read superbol and super anadrol are the same... The compound looks extremely similar, if not exactly the same to Superdrol's one aswell...

Pyro has pretty much covered everything again lol. Anyway, yep Superdrol is very toxic etc but I still love that stuff. It's given me more problems than any other oral probably, but I have gotten better results from it as well. For me it's the best oral for strength. A huge factor in deciding whether or not to take it for me is that it can really make you feel shit, whereas dbol makes you feel great. If you aren't prepared to spend a few hundred bucks on liver/kidney support and not drink alcohol at all when you're on it (you shouldn't drink when on orals anyway) then don't use it. There are probably as many guys that have ended up at the doctor from superdrol in the few years it's been around, than with dbol in 50 years.

ice-rip wrote: What's the difference between these prohormone like superdrol,superbol, super anadrol etc. Which of these produce the best gain with least sides or are they all as toxic a anapolan

Like Ball said they are not prohormones. A prohormone is a precursor to a steroid that has to be converted into an active hormone before it does anything. Superdrol/Super Anadrol/Superbol are all 100% steroid and bind with androgen receptors. They are all very toxic. Read what I posted here about them . Basically they are the same thing made by different companies.

Thanks guys
So what are examples of prohormones we have in sa. I know the 1st animal stak was a prohormone but that was pulled. What do we have now that are prohormones. Heard they weren't worth it sides to gains ratio so want to avoid them altogether hence me asking

ice-rip wrote: Thanks guys
So what are examples of prohormones we have in sa. I know the 1st animal stak was a prohormone but that was pulled. What do we have now that are prohormones. Heard they weren't worth it sides to gains ratio so want to avoid them altogether hence me asking

Prohormones are surprisingly difficult to find in SA... Very easy in the USA,
some known ones are Halodrol and Epistane

Ball wrote: Prohormones are surprisingly difficult to find in SA... Very easy in the USA,
some known ones are Halodrol and Epistane

I think halodrol is a tbol precursor. Epistane is a steroid. It is the methylated version of the lesser known steroid epitiostanol just like superdrol is methylated masteron. Most of these modern prohormones from the last few years are actually steroids but are called prohormones so that people don't worry so much about taking them and probably to try and fool the feds initially. I wish we could get a regular supply of epistane. It's awesome.

Do you guys think I can run some proviron through my cycle?? To help keep the estrogen levels low??

Thanks

Superdrol is potent as shiat.. In every aspect haha..

Proviron is a good addition to any cycle, but keep something like letro on hand for the real estro issues.

PS - I personally think you must drop that bf% before touching anything, estro issues are a hack to get rid of and just play a bigger role when bf% is high and on cycle.

I am a superdrol fan.Hits you quite hard but gives results.

proviron will aid in estrogen control but not really.

Adex is advised buts it is a tad expensive so most use letro.

Agree with chapel on the bf...

Ok so I should drop my bodyfat to around 15% before start or lower??

Thanks