2nd cycle crit

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13 Nov 2012 10:04 #128192 by manery
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This my final layout of my 2nd cycle and I just need the go ahead from you guys. My goal is to put on muscle with little fat.

wk1-3 dbol 30mg
wk1-5 test prop 300mg
wk1-10 test e 450mg
wk1-10 npp 300mg
wk1-14 hcg 500ui

doctaris pct.

What do you guys think? I will have arimidex and caber on hand and will most probably run the arimidex from the start to keep water retention under control, what would be a good dose to keep water retention down without effecting gains?

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13 Nov 2012 10:29 #128199 by VonD
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seeing that it is a 10 week cycle have you considered dropping the test e and running test prop with the npp for a nice short ester cycle with limited water.

wk1-3 dbol 30mg/OT 60mg
wk1-10 test prop 600mg
wk1-10 npp 300mg

also i would swap the dbol for oral turinabol.

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13 Nov 2012 11:28 #128210 by manery
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Thanks for the response, i have considered prop throughout instead of test e but it works out cheaper with the test E :P and less frequent injections, again with tbol it just works out cheaper without it. Im doing some traveling soon and need to conserve cash, ill only be starting the cycle when im back but slowly going to start buying the gear now.

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13 Nov 2012 11:54 #128212 by VonD
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aaahhh damm was just about to add 10ius of hgh :lol:

cycle looks good.i would drop the dbol as you already have the prop for the kickstart so less water.

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13 Nov 2012 13:07 #128215 by manery
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haha, ill think about droping the dbol but i rate it will help with some extra mass and its dirt cheap ill be running arimidex all the way through with a clean diet some im not to worried about bloat. Any idea what dosage i should run arimidex to keep water retention on the low side?

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13 Nov 2012 13:12 - 13 Nov 2012 13:13 #128217 by manery
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I rate the dbol and test prop will set the right tone for this cycle, hoping to gain quite a bit.

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13 Nov 2012 13:54 #128225 by aspoester
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Very solid cycle, im planning on doing my first npp cycle almost identical to this.
The addition of hcg throughout will really help recovery and the testp kicker is brilliant i absolutely love it.

Curious to why you would include lowish dose dbol also? Why not just increase the testp, the workout to almost the same price and the higher testp has yielded better results for myself than including more kicker compounds.

Other than running testp whole cycle instead of teste as has been mentioned, its a well structured cycle :) what have you planned for bridge ?

.25mg adex e3d should be plenty, depending on how prone you are you can just adjust the dose. It works nice and quick so no need to run pre cycle like letro.
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13 Nov 2012 17:13 - 13 Nov 2012 17:35 #128249 by manery
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Thanks. The dbol test prop combo just appeals to me more then just plain test p, been thinking about it for awhile. Im not gyno prone, so ill use your recommended arimidex dose and adjust it accordingly if necessary. I was thinking about bridging with winny and proviron or maybe winny and prop.

add: what will you be bridging with?

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14 Nov 2012 09:43 #128279 by aspoester
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I do my long time favorite of proviron and winny, judging by you doing the 5week kicker with testp you will need 3 vials of pgw testp. So this will leave you with +- 500mg which you can use for the first week and a half of bridge. It will clear well before your ethenate ester clearing time.

I think i might just go with this exact cycle in a few months time, just less the dbol and using testc instead of teste. Im very gyno prone so im curious to how i will fare with regards to prolactin gyno, will be interesting but cant wait :)
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14 Nov 2012 10:00 #128282 by manery
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I think you mean 2 bottles, 1500mg for kickstart and 500mg for bridge. perfect :) This cycle is going to be alot of fun, cant wait to start, thanks for the help.

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14 Nov 2012 10:30 #128286 by aspoester
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yes 2 sorry about that :) morning maths :p

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