Cycle Help needed!

Hi Everyone. I'm new to the forum and well basically the site.
I'm here to ask for some advice on my 2nd Cycle 1st was a low dose of Test
Now Looking at a bulking Cycle.

I'm 92kgs
188cm
And BF is 10-11%
23
I'm looking at using A Dianabols+Deca300+Sus325+Cyp200 cycle

Starting of with
50mg of Dianabols for the 1st four weeks.
And 2ml Sustanon a week
1ml Deca a week
And the Cyp from. Week 8
Should I inject all in one go as one of my mates is currently on the same kind of cycle and does all his sustanon on 1 day with his deca

Or should I go for 1ml Sus and 1ml Deca on Monday and then the other 1ml sus on say Thursday.
For 10 weeks

I also want to use 200mg of Cypionate from about week 8 till about week 12
as I've read on numerous other sites that its advised to run Test longer than the deca and as sus has deca in it would make sense to run test only for longer?

For PCT.
Thinking of getting Clomid 100mg a day for 3 weeks is that enough\too much\too little?
Should I also throw pregnyl into the mix or what is advisable?

Only planning on running this cycle from Mid January 2013.
Looking to gain some good mass.

Please advise\Help me on the Sus Injections.
Whether I should add the extra test for the extended weeks after the deca.
Duration of PCT and if clomid is enough or should I add Pregnyl or something else.
Also is there any Diffrence between blue heart dianabols and any other dianabols?
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

What was your first cycle like? That's plenty gear for a 2nd, IMO excessive. I would think you can leave out the deca and d-bol and still gain well (I can't even fathom the sus dude). Also reconsider your PCT, read the stickies and articles on this site.

My opinion, but best wait for one of the more experienced okes to advise further before you proceed.

So You reckon I should just go for the Sus only...and leave the rest out?

1st cycle was 20ml propionate 100mg
Twice a week injections monday thursday.
10 weeks.
Used it more to burn some fat and get some more definition which it dit.
Didn't really gain much was 3kg but all seemed lean as all I bascically eat is chicken and steaks all the time.

Kept all of it but was out of Action for while due to an accident and a few operations.

Now I Just want to gain some serious mass and keep most if not all of it.
8-10kgs.

Would the sus only cycle give that to me?and should I then go for the bi-weekly injections or all in one go?
And what would you go for in your opinion for PCT.?

Need to do research regarding PCT bro :pinch: PCT 3 will be need look in the download section.

Cycle idea-14weeks

test e-2.5ml a week(depending on dosage)(+-750mg)14weeks

deca-1.5ml(450mg)12weeks

dbol-50mg a day or anaps at 50mg a day(for an all out bulk)4weeks

Test injections split into 2 shots mon/thur
deca also split with the test

MrThumbs wrote: Hi Everyone. I'm new to the forum and well basically the site.
I'm here to ask for some advice on my 2nd Cycle 1st was a low dose of Test
Now Looking at a bulking Cycle.

I'm 92kgs
188cm
And BF is 10-11%
23
I'm looking at using A Dianabols+Deca300+Sus325+Cyp200 cycle

Starting of with
50mg of Dianabols for the 1st four weeks.
And 2ml Sustanon a week
1ml Deca a week
And the Cyp from. Week 8
Should I inject all in one go as one of my mates is currently on the same kind of cycle and does all his sustanon on 1 day with his deca

Or should I go for 1ml Sus and 1ml Deca on Monday and then the other 1ml sus on say Thursday.
For 10 weeks

I also want to use 200mg of Cypionate from about week 8 till about week 12
as I've read on numerous other sites that its advised to run Test longer than the deca and as sus has deca in it would make sense to run test only for longer?

For PCT.
Thinking of getting Clomid 100mg a day for 3 weeks is that enough\too much\too little?
Should I also throw pregnyl into the mix or what is advisable?

Only planning on running this cycle from Mid January 2013.
Looking to gain some good mass.

Please advise\Help me on the Sus Injections.
Whether I should add the extra test for the extended weeks after the deca.
Duration of PCT and if clomid is enough or should I add Pregnyl or something else.
Also is there any Diffrence between blue heart dianabols and any other dianabols?
Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

bud in my opinion there is no need for so much gear on your second cycle, but if you do go ahead with the deca then what vonD suggested is spot on and better planned,

as for your knowledge on gear some1 really mislead you with wrongful information, sus contains NO deca at all, it is a mixture of fast and slow releasing testosterones only.. so scratch the idea of adding the cyp as it will be a waist and just bring unnecessary complications..

and clomid wont be good enough as a pct if you ran a 19-nor compound, pct 3 is a MINIMUM (clomid, nolva, ovidrel and aromasin)

i would also drop the sus and use either cyp or enanthate, easier to keep blood levels stable and shorter waiting time to pct

also no difference between dbols in a mg point of view, generally all 10mg BUT suppliers and brands can make a huge difference in gains made, if its legit ot fake etc etc.. and in my experience blue hearts are the most faked. so just be careful

good luck

Thanks for the input gents.
Ive downloaded PCT3.
and will definitely follow that route.

Well thats why ive posted on the site due to too many guys in the gym claiming to be know it all's when it comes to this kind of stuff.
The guy im buying my stuff from trys to be one of thes know it all's and constantly wants me and my gym buddy to jump on either tren or HGH....Which even i know is a bit rough for n newb like myself.
He also tells us that for a post cycle all you need is clomid.

So you Guys advise me to run Ethanate instead and ditch the Sus.
So I should focus more on a cycle like VonD has provided.
@PoisendPulse So i should rather stay away from the Blue hearts.

So PCT3 should be started 2 weeks after my last injection?

Really do appreciate the help gents.
dont want to be making mistakes when it comes to this.
Rather ask some people in the know than some guy just trying to make a profit out of me!

Your supplier is the last person you should be getting advice from....sad but true

Read the pct articles on the site.this will clear up any confusion regarding pct. 2 weeks is to soon to start pct.

i would personally run a dianabol/test cyp and winny cycle. with pct2.

dianabol 40mg first 4weeks
test cyp 500mg for 12 weeks
winny at 40mg last for weeks before pct.

Its only your second cycle and you are overcomplicating things, i think you will still do very well on a basic cycle and save some bucks and side effects.

Don't know if I understand this correctly... Do you want to add cyp at week 8???
If so I would not see the point of that...

Thanks for all the Responses Gents

@Ko Yeah I know this now he only wants to make a profit and he is very uneducated he told another guy that test-cypionate is when you want to build back and shoulders???? :huh:

Will defo read all the articles luckily I have loads of time to do so.

@Bandit1200 yes but only wanted to run the extra test to avoid deca dick..
I do love my penis and prefer it to stay working..

Hi All,

I am wanting to run my first cycle with turinabol and winstrol tabs, don't dig the needle thang.

Turinabol 40 mg
Winstrol. 50 mg
PCT Nova
Milk thistle or liv52

Any input or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

MrThumbs wrote: So You reckon I should just go for the Sus only...and leave the rest out?

1st cycle was 20ml propionate 100mg
Twice a week injections monday thursday.
10 weeks.
Used it more to burn some fat and get some more definition which it dit.
Didn't really gain much was 3kg but all seemed lean as all I bascically eat is chicken and steaks all the time.

Kept all of it but was out of Action for while due to an accident and a few operations.

Now I Just want to gain some serious mass and keep most if not all of it.
8-10kgs.

Would the sus only cycle give that to me?and should I then go for the bi-weekly injections or all in one go?
And what would you go for in your opinion for PCT.?

Some more tough love from the GSP

The fact that you injected prop twice a week and still think that there is no problem with this means that you are in no way ready to run a cycle which includes both test and a nor-derivative. also, due to lack of insight, also stick to single esters as running test blends with short, medium and long esters, are for intermediate users. And no, irrespective of how much gear you shooting up, I believe taht it will be highly unlikely that you will pick up and keep 10kg of lean muscle given your current knowledge of AAS.

VonD wrote: Need to do research regarding PCT bro :pinch: PCT 3 will be need look in the download section.

Cycle idea-14weeks

test e-2.5ml a week(depending on dosage)(+-750mg)14weeks

deca-1.5ml(450mg)12weeks

dbol-50mg a day or anaps at 50mg a day(for an all out bulk)4weeks

Test injections split into 2 shots mon/thur
deca also split with the test

dude, seriously now, you have been told my several users on this board that the amount of gear you are currently running and/intend to run is overkill and will be detrimental to your health in the long term. whether you took this advice or not is entirely up to you, but seriously do not be advocating these ludicrous cycles to other impressionable members of the forum who may consider you to be a senior poster and who may actually end up running such cycles and f up the bodies big time.

Seriously 750mg test, 450mg deca, frontloaded with 50mg anaps for a second cycle? Are you serious?