My next cycle

So I am planning my next cycle. I did a 14 week cycle 2ml TestE weekly, proviron and winny 10 months ago

Goal - lean muscle

Now, my plan for my next cycle is
1 - 14 wk 2ml supertest
1 - 14 wk 2 ml EQ
14 - 18 wk 30 mg winny ed

PCT
Nolvadex
Clomid
Hcg


Stats
36
1.83
122kg
17% bf

I will also be using the same diet DJ gave me during my previous cycle...... It worked like a bomb!!


Any comments or advise?

Up winny to 50mg per day.

why not swap the equi for npp?more gains and a bit of water but you can control that with some adex/letro.

I agree with Von D, npp is going to give you better gains. What are your goals bro?

If i was you i would try get your bodyfat down to atleast 13%, but some guys like the bulky look, up to you.

Hi guys
My goal is lean mass and I would like to get my bf below 14%

So NPP is the better option? Dosage?

Another question, do I start the ai at the start of the cycle or only once I see signs of gyno?

Then do is need to change my pct if I go for NPP

dude76 wrote: Hi guys
My goal is lean mass and I would like to get my bf below 14%

So NPP is the better option? Dosage?

Another question, do I start the ai at the start of the cycle or only once I see signs of gyno?

Then do is need to change my pct if I go for NPP

run the npp for 10/12 weeks at 300mg a week, inject 1 ml twice a week. Start ai when you see signs of gyno or use the ai from start to minimise water retention. your pct is still fine.

seeing that npp is a 19 nor i would suggest PCT 3 - Doctari's PCT.

Yup if you opt for the npp i would run PCT 3 also.

Guys
Thanks for all the advise!!

Would the EQ not be the safe option and easier to recover from, seeing its only my second cycle. I can always give NNP a go in my 3rd cycle.

eq gains are not that spectacular.2kg maybe and you need to tun it for 14-16 weeks.

Ok point taken

So if I go the NPP route, would it be a good idea to use the hcg as a bridge, then do pct3?

Or would it be a wait coz the long esters will not have cleaner yet?

Then, lastly.... Would it be wise to run proviron throughout?

What is your ultimate goal? I.e what you want to look like one day after all is said and done.

I would like to look like Koe007

What were your gains like on first cycle?

kkx250 wrote: What were your gains like on first cycle?

Approx 5kg after pct

dude76 wrote: I would like to look like Koe007

Don't we all! :silly: I.m.o if you want to get Hulk huge then you have to plan your cycles carefully and squeeze as much as possible from each compound before going to the next. Normally we will advise a second cycle to be a test only cycle because you can still make great gains from the test alone. Nandrolone is an advanced compound so I would leave it for your third or fourth cycle. Also if you use the Nadrolone now then where can you go for your next cycle? It's like having a Ferrari for your second car where you could have been just as happy with a BMW 135i. Remember if you want to look like KOE then you gotta eat like KOE!

Pyroclasm wrote:

dude76 wrote: I would like to look like Koe007

Don't we all! :silly: I.m.o if you want to get Hulk huge then you have to plan your cycles carefully and squeeze as much as possible from each compound before going to the next. Normally we will advise a second cycle to be a test only cycle because you can still make great gains from the test alone. Nandrolone is an advanced compound so I would leave it for your third or fourth cycle. Also if you use the Nadrolone now then where can you go for your next cycle? It's like having a Ferrari for your second car where you could have been just as happy with a BMW 135i. Remember if you want to look like KOE then you gotta eat like KOE!

Thanks Pyro

I think this is good advice!!! One step at a time.
I'll be using DJ's diet and tweek it along the way. I will keep it simple for now and will build up the compounds during my future cycles.

Appreciate your help!

Pleasure bro! I would add EQ to the test if you want as EQ is not too suppressive. It will give you an extra kg or two and some nice lean gains and also makes your muscles harder. You should see an increase in vascularity as well. Kak expensive though.

The budget looks ok, so I will then go with the cycle as per my first post.

Pyro, would you suggest any changes to my initial proposed cycle?

I would add Test prop @ 1ml EOD for the first 5 weeks to give you an extra boost while waiting for the longer esters to kick in. You need to add something during your bridge. Use T-Bol @60mg ED if you want all out mass or Anavar @80mg ED if you want to lose a bit of fat and cut. Add Proviron throughout the cycle at 60mg ED.