5 years + natural info on first cycle

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01 Oct 2012 22:23 #124155 by JuicyJuice
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Hi ive been training for more than 5 years without the use of any steroids or pro hormones. i feel that i have reached my maximum natural potential as my strength is better than most people even using steroids and i cannot get any bigger and leaner. my training and diet is in check. i would like to know what would a first cycle for someone like me look like with the goal in mind to look like a top fitness model. also will these steroids mess with my hormones and cause me not to be able to have children? thanks

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02 Oct 2012 07:09 #124165 by admin
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02 Oct 2012 08:11 #124167 by DBatDBN
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Read the information that Admin suggested and AS MUCH research on here as you can first.
Then you should give your stats in order for the guys here to give accurate advice.
Age, Height, Weight, BF%, Diet guideline. State what your immediate goals are.

Quick answer to your question. Steroids will most definitely "mess" with your hormones, everything you do to build muscle comes 100% down to hormones.
No it won't make you sterile unless you do something really stupid! This site is no.1 when it comes to steroid advice so enjoy!

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02 Oct 2012 17:47 #124234 by GSP
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JuicyJuice wrote: Hi ive been training for more than 5 years without the use of any steroids or pro hormones. i feel that i have reached my maximum natural potential as my strength is better than most people even using steroids and i cannot get any bigger and leaner. my training and diet is in check. i would like to know what would a first cycle for someone like me look like with the goal in mind to look like a top fitness model. also will these steroids mess with my hormones and cause me not to be able to have children? thanks

Ben


ok not to mess with you bud, but if your goal is too look like a fitness model then you have definately not in any way maximised your body's natural abilities. please post your diet and lets start from there

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06 Oct 2012 01:03 #124584 by JuicyJuice
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Thanks for the reply guys. i will read the articles.

my stats are

age: 23
hight: 1.76m
weight: just under 80kg
bf: around 10% maybe a bit less

and GSP im not talking about the mens health fitness models. more like world class ones like Greg Plitt and them :) . ive got decent muscles and strength. just want to go over the edge and get that dry and hard look.

my diet is good. high in protein and full of healthy foods. and i also take various supplements including protein powders,fish oils, BCAA, etc

as ive mentioned, the chance of becoming sterile scares ma a bit. is there roids that 100% would not influence this? sorry for the noob questions.

also my goal is to be at around 80-85 kg at say 6-7%bf

thanks
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06 Oct 2012 09:26 #124591 by GSP
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JuicyJuice wrote: Thanks for the reply guys. i will read the articles.

my stats are

age: 23
hight: 1.76m
weight: just under 80kg
bf: around 10% maybe a bit less

and GSP im not talking about the mens health fitness models. more like world class ones like Greg Plitt and them :) . ive got decent muscles and strength. just want to go over the edge and get that dry and hard look.

my diet is good. high in protein and full of healthy foods. and i also take various supplements including protein powders,fish oils, BCAA, etc

as ive mentioned, the chance of becoming sterile scares ma a bit. is there roids that 100% would not influence this? sorry for the noob questions.

also my goal is to be at around 80-85 kg at say 6-7%bf

thanks
Ben


my apologies mate when u said fitness model, I immediately had images of mens health in my mind... Seems what you after is body recomp, i.e. dropping body fat and adding lean muscle at the same time. AAS will definately aid you in this regard but in terms of your goals, mentioning the good stuff that you eating doesn't help as much as how much of it you eating and how you timing your nutritional intake.

Is your current diet based on your bmr and tdee calculations?

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06 Oct 2012 20:13 #124612 by manery
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Post your diet.

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07 Oct 2012 01:13 #124625 by JuicyJuice
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No apologie needed GSP thanks for your help! I dont have a diet set in stone. I count my calories based on if i want to gain weight or lose fat. Then i see that i get atleast 2x my bodyweigt in protein and then good carbs and fat. A sample of a days diet would look something like. Omlet with cheese and toast for breakfast, protein shake with oats and banana after gym. Chicken and potato for lunch, chicken/other meat and rice/ vegies for dinner and maybe another protein shake throughout the day if needed. And then some fishoils with these meals. Also what is the half life of a roid? the time it stays in your system? Thanks guy

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10 Oct 2012 15:36 #125081 by JuicyJuice
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10 Oct 2012 15:45 #125083 by thePridge
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I think the guys are looking for a full diet breakdown including the weight of each item you eat.
But stuff like toast is probably not a good idea for a start...

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10 Oct 2012 16:12 #125087 by Furk
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JuicyJuice wrote: protein shake with oats and banana after gym.


Don't do that. After training you need to get the nutrients your muscles crave fast. By adding a lot of "other stuff" to whey, you are making it more complex for your system to digest. If you choose to add something to whey, let it be fast digesting simple carbs.

Read the dieting stickies, I think this type of thing is covered there.

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