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Hi guys

98 kg 18 % 2m tall
going for size and strength
currently in week 4 doing 1000mg test(500 sust + 500 en) 200 deca front loaded anaps 50mg day for 30 days. Planning for 15 weeks - just mass - will have to accept the water bulk look for this period - always went for really lean look - doesnt suit my height

Should up the dosage test ? or maybe change up the esters to cyp ?
Deca dosage up ? maybe include Equi - need to increase appetite too.
Have 10mg Dianabols introduced them this week at 20mg/day - ok on liver ?

Thanks chaps

bud.. if you wanna grow, u must eat, trying to use all those compounds to reach your goal will leave u damaged and sad, as you going to waist alot of money, at 2m tall, and only 98, you have plenty room to grow with a solid diet, just my 2c :whistle: but as for the cycle, whats your history like? deca isnt something advisable for the first few cycles as guys dont know the side effects or how to manage them, and im by no means here to shut u down or anything, but my opinion on your suggestion, too much test, too little deca, and anaps and dbol together will be plain crazy aswell as adding the equi.. so many compounds all with there own sides, how will you know which one is to blame? ...

Whats your pct going to like?

Yes listen to poisoned P,diet is the main thing for your goal or any goal.

Not a good idea to run Anaps and D bol in the same cycle.

Gyno!

Whats your cycle history?

Rather shy away from deca bro...

gorilla wrote: Whats your cycle history?

Rather shy away from deca bro...

Why do you keep saying this? Just because you dont like it doesnt mean its a bad steroid.

jackrabbit1 wrote:

gorilla wrote: Whats your cycle history?

Rather shy away from deca bro...

Why do you keep saying this? Just because you dont like it doesnt mean its a bad steroid.

Not saying I dont like deca, will love to try it, but the guy wants to do dbol and naps in the same cycle - clearly he is not on the right track, he is already on his stuff so there is also no way of convincing him not do to roids without doing your homework first.

Thats why I say rather go away from deca and do something safer and less aromatizable, naps+dbol+deca+1000mg test is a sure fire way to end up with gyno if you dont know what your doing...

EDIT: And he has 18% bodyfat...

What I think Gorilla is saying is:
Educated experiences people= Deca is a great compound
Uneducated bro-science thinking roids are the fix= Shy away from Deca

Agreed, at 2m tall and 18%body fat you don't have alot of muscle, and doing 1000mg test to try and get some is crazy!

Pyroclasm wrote: What I think Gorilla is saying is:
Educated experiences people= Deca is a great compound
Uneducated bro-science thinking roids are the fix= Shy away from Deca

Exactly!

Agreed, at 2m tall and 18%body fat you don't have alot of muscle, and doing 1000mg test to try and get some is crazy!

Exactly!

Deca is great, but clearly this guy is messing with the wrong compound..

Deca has had a part in building some of the greatest physiques in history!

Warrior wrote: Hi guys

98 kg 18 % 2m tall
going for size and strength
currently in week 4 doing 1000mg test(500 sust + 500 en) 200 deca front loaded anaps 50mg day for 30 days. Planning for 15 weeks - just mass - will have to accept the water bulk look for this period - always went for really lean look - doesnt suit my height

Should up the dosage test ? or maybe change up the esters to cyp ?
Deca dosage up ? maybe include Equi - need to increase appetite too.
Have 10mg Dianabols introduced them this week at 20mg/day - ok on liver ?

Thanks chaps

Anaps are done right?
Drop the test to half and double the deca.
Lose the DBols at this stage - 30 days on anaps was enough for your liver.
Swop the dbol for winstrol and use them in your bridge to pct.

Deca ALWAYS makes me lose fat, my Cholesterol also comes down and i dont carry water.
Make sure you do Doctari's PCT and use HCG on cycle.

shot pois p
appreciate it
eatn is good at moment
hav done various cycles
never exceeded 700 test ever

dropping deca this week adding 400mg equi drop sust add enanthate at 500mg per week - shot shots be divided for blood plasma levels ? or jus 1 hit per week?
also thought dbol after anaps was a no-no - had been given wrong advise
usually very conservative with dosages in past
shyed away from heavy andro stacks
responded bomb to winnie, equi, var in the past eve test prop
really trying for size now
calorie intake is good cleanish :whistle: lol
anyways guys thanks a million
may i post my chowing for opinions?

Warrior wrote: may i post my chowing for opinions?

Anytime

730 - 1 cup oats + 2 scoops whey

930 - 10 egg whites 2 slices toast

1200 - 200grams chick + 300 grams potato

1400 - 3 scoops monster mass

1600 - 1 cup oats + 2 scoops whey

1700 - train

post workout - 3 scoops monster mass

1930 - 200 grams chick + 300 potato

trying to include late night slow release whey

ps 2litres water per day

in add to mentioned stack using 40mg proviron per day divided dose.

Warrior wrote: 730 - 1 cup oats + 2 scoops whey - Rather have steak or eggs with the oats

930 - 10 egg whites 2 slices toast - Rather have rice/potatoes

1200 - 200grams chick + 300 grams potato

1400 - 3 scoops monster mass - swap for a wholefood meal, 200g chick and 300g potatoe

1600 - 1 cup oats + 2 scoops whey - add raisins

1700 - train

post workout - 3 scoops monster mass - swap for whey and dextrose

1930 - 200 grams chick + 300 potato

trying to include late night slow release whey - whey + peanutbutter does the job

ps 2litres water per day

in add to mentioned stack using 40mg proviron per day divided dose.

I'm pretty sure I eat more than that, and I'm only 1.7m, 74kg! I didn't work out callories just an observation, I'll try and do that later but seems to be eating to little!

I dunno about you bro, but 2 meals of chicken and potato everyday really gets to me, there are other carb and protein sources.

add lean beef mince instead of chicken.

add cous cous/sweet potato/brown rice/ basmati rice for other carbs sources.

eat some low fat cottage cheese before bed, its high in casein protein (slow release)

add almonds for protein and fat.

these are just some idea's to help change up the diet if your getting sick of what your eating.

manery wrote: I dunno about you bro, but 2 meals of chicken and potato everyday really gets to me, there are other carb and protein sources.

add lean beef mince instead of chicken.

add cous cous/sweet potato/brown rice/ basmati rice for other carbs sources.

eat some low fat cottage cheese before bed, its high in casein protein (slow release)

add almonds for protein and fat.

these are just some idea's to help change up the diet if your getting sick of what your eating.

This is good advice, so long as you eat enough and clean you should grow bro, this is a example of my daily diet:

100g Future life

Whey and PB shake

Rice/potato + 175g meat

Rice/potato + 175g meat

Oats,fat free milk,raisins and a tbsp honey

Whey post workout

1 hour post workout: rice/potato + chicken/fish

bedtime: Almonds + cottage cheese or PB and whey or Steak and almonds

gorilla wrote:

manery wrote: I dunno about you bro, but 2 meals of chicken and potato everyday really gets to me, there are other carb and protein sources.

add lean beef mince instead of chicken.

add cous cous/sweet potato/brown rice/ basmati rice for other carbs sources.

eat some low fat cottage cheese before bed, its high in casein protein (slow release)

add almonds for protein and fat.

these are just some idea's to help change up the diet if your getting sick of what your eating.

This is good advice, so long as you eat enough and clean you should grow bro, this is a example of my daily diet:

100g Future life

Whey and PB shake

Rice/potato + 175g meat

Rice/potato + 175g meat

Oats,fat free milk,raisins and a tbsp honey

Whey post workout

1 hour post workout: rice/potato + chicken/fish

bedtime: Almonds + cottage cheese or PB and whey or Steak and almonds

what rice do you eat? and are those normall white potatoes or sweet potato's? just curious

Brown or basmati rice mostly - Like the basmati more

Sweet potatoes mostly, cos I like them better, but I also do potatoes alot, depends what I have...

shot alot guys

will make necessary adjustments.

need to increase my appetite any thoughts .....

maybe swopn of deca for equi will help.

also how accurate is the body fat measurement with the virgin active machines?

rather use calipers?